JAK2 Mutation - Effects and Questions

Posted by ettap @ettap, Mar 29, 2018

Have JAK2 mutation verified twice; one year apart and from different labs. As I understand, it may cause polycythemia vera, essential thrombocytosis, or leukemia. My hematologist has not provided any real info on this mutation so I've been researching via internet. I knew leukemia is cancer but was disappointed to find out today that the other 2 are blood cancers as well. I have been seeing a hematologist every 3 mos. about this since my 2nd blood clotting event in 09/2016. To date, all my blood factors have been in the normal range. Here are some of my questions: 1. Is it typical to verify this mutation well before it triggers one of these diseases? 2. I know early detection of cancer can be a real plus, but is there any research or experience that supports proactive steps that can be taken to deter the onset of any of these possibilities? 3. With polycythemia vera and essential thrombocytosis, is blood letting the primary treatment? If so, can the blood be donated? 4. Since none of my blood factors have ever been out of the normal range to date, no specific result of the JAK2 mutation has raised its ugly head. Is this normal? I'm not typically a worrier. In fact, I do really well with things like this once I know what I am dealing with. Information becomes my sword which allows me to take worry and nip it in the bud.

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@JustinMcClanahan

Hello @ettap and welcome to Connect. It is good to see that you have confirmed your mutation twice, but are not currently experiencing any of the symptoms. If you don't mind, I am going to give a couple of quick resources in regard to a few of your questions:

- Polycythemia vera treatment: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/polycythemia-vera/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355855
- Essential thrombocytosis: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/essential-thrombocythemia/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20361131

This is also from Mayo Clinic, "The mutation that causes polycythemia vera is thought to affect a protein switch that tells the cells to grow. Specifically, it's a mutation in the protein Janus kinase 2 (JAK2). Most people with polycythemia vera have this mutation. The cause of the mutation isn't known, but it's generally not inherited. Polycythemia vera can occur at any age, but it's more common in adults older than 60."

@ettap, if you don't mind sharing, have those three specific hematological disorders been discussed with you by your hematologist? Has he or she mentioned myelofibrosis? I am not a medical professional and am in no way diagnosing, but myelofibrosis can be a result of a JAK2 mutation as well.

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@ettap , Great comment. Most importantly, because it pertains to me, as well!(!) Anyway, I have been dX myelofibrosis by Mayo, several years ago. I am not sure now if the dX came with the discovery of the JAK2 mutation, or the other way around. Anyway, This makes another great argument for getting a whole genome discovery, sequencing or otherwise, by a competent lab. My Gelsolin (GSN), FKTN and other stuff constantly remind me that every cell in my body is subject to the ravages of these scourges.

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My early Thanksgiving treat was finding out that I in fact have MF. Ugh. Interestingly, my spleen has decreased in size 18% and I have almost no blood numbers that are concerning. My platelets typically are over 450k, but almost always below 600k; elevated, but as some of you have mentioned this is not an alarming amount. However, the bone marrow biopsy did show elevated numbers in several measurements that are indicators of MF; the marrow itself had some but limited fibrosis. Dr. ordered the genetic testing on the bone marrow. That biopsy is a doozy! Might have let out a bit of "french" for the PA to hear... oops. Though there is not a grading level for MF, like in other cancers, my range is MF 0-1. It is early in the fight. Trying to wrap my mind around what this means for the near term as I have seen firsthand what the end of this can look like with my father. I am trying to focus on one day at a time.

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@scottmatteo

My early Thanksgiving treat was finding out that I in fact have MF. Ugh. Interestingly, my spleen has decreased in size 18% and I have almost no blood numbers that are concerning. My platelets typically are over 450k, but almost always below 600k; elevated, but as some of you have mentioned this is not an alarming amount. However, the bone marrow biopsy did show elevated numbers in several measurements that are indicators of MF; the marrow itself had some but limited fibrosis. Dr. ordered the genetic testing on the bone marrow. That biopsy is a doozy! Might have let out a bit of "french" for the PA to hear... oops. Though there is not a grading level for MF, like in other cancers, my range is MF 0-1. It is early in the fight. Trying to wrap my mind around what this means for the near term as I have seen firsthand what the end of this can look like with my father. I am trying to focus on one day at a time.

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Hi Scott, while it's good to get a confirmed diagnosis, I'm sorry to hear that you have myelofibrosis. You might like to connect with others in this related discussion:

- Myelofibrosis https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myelofibrosis-24a025/

In the meantime, I whole-heartedly agree with the approach of focusing on one day at a time.

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@scottmatteo

My father passed away from a battle of myelofibrosis (MF), over 10 years after being diagnosed with enlarged spleen and 6 from diagnosis of MF. I am nearly 9 months post immunotherapy treatment for stage 3 melanoma treatment (discovered in lymph nodes without known source). During a post treatment CT scan the radiologist identified my enlarged spleen, which is not typical of melanoma, but could be a side effect of immunotherapy (very rare and limited literature). My oncologist was dismissive of the genetic potential for me to have MF, like my father. Additional observation of my spleen showed continued growth and my oncologist finally discussed with another who suggested a JAK2 mutation blood test. You can see where this is headed; I was notified yesterday that I have the JAK2 gene mutation. I am 47. I am in good health; other than previous melanoma (nearly 2 years from discovery) that I have battled and praying for a very good prognosis on that front shortly! My melanoma specialist is being reassigned and I will be headed to another hematologist that is very familiar with my family history of cancer. As my medical group sends test results directly to the patient as soon as they are received I have yet to discuss with my Dr. I presume I will have a bone marrow biopsy to determine stage, if any, at this point. I am jumping to the MF diagnose myself; treatments for early stage, ongoing studies or any suggestions to extend this wonderful life are appreciated. As with melanoma, the treatments are expanding by the day, I will not hang my head in fear, but give this godforsaken disease a damn good fight. Too much to live for to live in fear.

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@scottmatteo I, too, have myelofibrosis. diagnosed by Mayo almost 6 years ago. But at that time, Mayo said there was no need to try treatment, as I would die soon, anyway. So I just keep going with my stockpile of MM and other AI stuff (FKTN, FKRP, CJD, GSN, CALR. BE, BCAN, etc.). And my doc refuses to talk about it, and the Willamette Samaritan treatment pattern remains the same. "If you ain't dead yet, you don't need treatment."

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@misty45

I'm happy to share my experience. #1. No, do not need to give blood. The Hydrea is toxic enough to kill the excess platelets. #2. I have experimented over the years to cut back a little from the prescribed dosage simply to minimize the amount of toxicity I'm consuming. My Docs have not liked this kind of fooling around with the dosage. So I've been steady at 6 days a week, no Sundays for about a year. No side effects from the Hydrea after the initial first month twenty years ago. #3. I still have no symptoms of this strange blood disorder called ET, regardless what my count is on any given day. I go every 3 months for a cbc. It puzzles me that at 72, I still feel the same with a count of 480 as I did at age 40 when I was diagnosed with a count of 800. #4. My two Docs (first one retired) have dangled the ultimate fear over me since the diagnosis, but so far my ET has not morphed into leukemia. Having no symptoms and in disbelief, I went to the Scottsdale Mayo Clinic for a second opinion at some point in the 1990s. Same diagnosis. Very disappointing because I was really convinced that nothing was wrong with me. Thanks for sharing the NIH info. I always like to run across updated information on PV,ET, and other blood disorders. You may never progress to anything more advanced. Best wishes.

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so what is your Hydroxy dosage? I was on only 500MG but my doctor(here at Roswell) doubled it, as all on the CBC went high. I too stopped on Sundays and since the new dosage I have not, but was thinking of cutting it to six days again, as I agree about the toxicity. I started in '06 at age of 48

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Sorry for rambling, but by sharing my experience I hope to provide some insight and respond to some of your questions/concerns.
Well, my understanding is that a JAK2 mutation is diagnosed by either a bone marrow biopsy or genetic testing. I have had both twice and have ET with JAK2 as well as other genetic markers. My learning has been that JAK2 is a signaling system that turns the bone marrow on/ off for making blood. Mine presented with high platlets and then a bone marrow biopsy confirmed. Twice, a hematologist is not the expert for this you need an Oncologist And find one who Knows about blood disorders. Mayo in Scottsdale has one of the best in Jeanne Palmer! I see her PA monthly. He sees more blood disorder cases than typical oncology practices and all my data and his notes go directly to Dr Palmer for review.
I take Hydrea 500-1000mg per day, changes with platlet levels. Hydrea is an oral chemo that basically kills of overproduction in a well balanced fashion. I had a chronic cough which was diagnosed as “ cloudy lung” and no idea what that meant. You will get that answer a lot as these are rare cancers and research is lacking. So they “assumed” it was Hydrea related. Switched to interferon/Pegysus injections…but once I found out the cost would be $50k annually out of pocket, I insisted a return to Hydrea. None of these are cures, only maintenance drugs…so I will go with $20/ mo vs $4500/ mo. Give me a cure for $100k and I am all in! You will find there are a lot of guesses and not sure in dr responses on many side effects. So sometimes You need to be your own best advocate. Most drs are arrogant and think They have the answers, but it is your cancer…own it! Anyway, I ran into a gang green on my toes on one foot. Turns out that my platlets had been elevated And I had a 40% blockage in an artery to my foot. Fought for 8 months to address these issues and added stent, blood thinner, and doubled Hydrea in order to avoid that 50% chance of losing my foot. Now that was scarier than having been diagnosed with cancer…twice!
You will find many cases of ET where treatments like Hydrea, interferon and Jakafi successfully minimize side effects and the disease does not progress to Pmf which can only be cured with a bone marrow transplant. But all are only Managing the side effects.
I have Jak2 and ET did not present until I was 65… I think it is like the old adage about prostate cancer…most men die with it and not from it. I assume many folks have Jak2 but it never presents symptoms and are never inconvienced by it or require treatment.
Progression from CLL, to ET to Pmf and even Lukemia is rare…lol…rare on a rare cancer. So chances are pretty minimal and not enough to worry about. I hear this is not hereditary, But then why did my mother have CLL..no treatment required, Niece had ET at 15 and was a test case for glevac and I have ET…I think that falls into They don’t know.
Just remember you have a rare cancer and the information out there is sketchy at best, so find an expert to guide you through this journey, and saddle up for a long ride!

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I have been living with high platelets (500-680 range) since 2016. In 2017 I had a bone marrow biopsy and lots of blood work and the doctor could not find anything wrong with me. I am healthy, have no symptoms, no other major health issues except hypothyroidism which I have taken medication for for over 30 years. My primary care physician sent me to a new hematologist/oncologist. He was perplexed as to why my platelets were high. So he ordered the Jak2 mutation qualitative test and it has come back positive. I see him again this Friday. Could someone direct me as to what I should be discussing with him. I literally am having no symptoms. At the last visit he suggested the low dose aspirin but I told him that I already suffer with tinnitus and have read that aspirin can cause tinnitus and/or make it worse, so I don't know if I want to take that. The hydroxyurea scares me as to all the side effects. Any guidance from anyone on this forum would be very much appreciated. Would the blood letting be a course of treatment for me? I am 68 year old female.

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@cynthiamdr

I have been living with high platelets (500-680 range) since 2016. In 2017 I had a bone marrow biopsy and lots of blood work and the doctor could not find anything wrong with me. I am healthy, have no symptoms, no other major health issues except hypothyroidism which I have taken medication for for over 30 years. My primary care physician sent me to a new hematologist/oncologist. He was perplexed as to why my platelets were high. So he ordered the Jak2 mutation qualitative test and it has come back positive. I see him again this Friday. Could someone direct me as to what I should be discussing with him. I literally am having no symptoms. At the last visit he suggested the low dose aspirin but I told him that I already suffer with tinnitus and have read that aspirin can cause tinnitus and/or make it worse, so I don't know if I want to take that. The hydroxyurea scares me as to all the side effects. Any guidance from anyone on this forum would be very much appreciated. Would the blood letting be a course of treatment for me? I am 68 year old female.

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Hi Cynthia, welcome. How did your appointment go today?

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@cynthiamdr

I have been living with high platelets (500-680 range) since 2016. In 2017 I had a bone marrow biopsy and lots of blood work and the doctor could not find anything wrong with me. I am healthy, have no symptoms, no other major health issues except hypothyroidism which I have taken medication for for over 30 years. My primary care physician sent me to a new hematologist/oncologist. He was perplexed as to why my platelets were high. So he ordered the Jak2 mutation qualitative test and it has come back positive. I see him again this Friday. Could someone direct me as to what I should be discussing with him. I literally am having no symptoms. At the last visit he suggested the low dose aspirin but I told him that I already suffer with tinnitus and have read that aspirin can cause tinnitus and/or make it worse, so I don't know if I want to take that. The hydroxyurea scares me as to all the side effects. Any guidance from anyone on this forum would be very much appreciated. Would the blood letting be a course of treatment for me? I am 68 year old female.

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My husband was diagnosed at 69, a year ago, with Primary Myelofibrosis including Jak2 mutation. A bone marrow biopsy and DNA testing confirmed this. We tried hydroxyurea but that did not shrink his spleen (as the spleen takes over the production of RBC since the bone marrow is unable to do this efficiently). Currently on Jakafi for the last 4 months, minimal side effects. We are facing a bone marrow transplant in the near future. If the spleen has not reduced in size, it will be removed and then we will proceed with the bone marrow transplant. A scary ride for sure, but it's the only cure.

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@lag630

My husband was diagnosed at 69, a year ago, with Primary Myelofibrosis including Jak2 mutation. A bone marrow biopsy and DNA testing confirmed this. We tried hydroxyurea but that did not shrink his spleen (as the spleen takes over the production of RBC since the bone marrow is unable to do this efficiently). Currently on Jakafi for the last 4 months, minimal side effects. We are facing a bone marrow transplant in the near future. If the spleen has not reduced in size, it will be removed and then we will proceed with the bone marrow transplant. A scary ride for sure, but it's the only cure.

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Sad and scary, but it is what it is. Good luck with these procedures. A rough road, but the path you are facing. Growing old is certainly not for the faint of heart!

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