Acute Myeloid Leukemia with Aberrant CD7
My wife has been diagnosed with blood cancer with AML. Wanted to confirm the line of treatment available to cure this disease. Also, is it treatable or curable.
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Hi dear sweet Lori...
You continue to blow me away with how much you know and how much you care about each and every person! An angel who is so knowledgeable.
Believe it or not, I think about getting back in touch with you almost daily. One of the frustrations I have is that I always find it difficult to get back to our thread so I put it off sometimes. Is it just me or it it the site? I'd like to save the thread and print it so I don't repeat myself and also retain more of your thoughts.
Life is good...meaning that he has only one GVHD symptom and it's mild. His face gets bright red and his cheeks swell up. The doctor recommended over the counter 1% hydrocortisone combined with vaseline 3 times a day. It has improved a lot.
As an aside so you have the big picture. I may or may not have told you my partner was diagnosed with an idiopathic eye condition called Uveitis in 2017 which can lead to blindness. It has been managed with steroid drops and eye pressure drops along with Methotrexate. He dropped the MTX after the AML diagnosis but has not seen an opthamologist for a long time. The transplant doctor said it is hard to distinguish the Uveitis from the ocular GVHD. Nobody can really help him in a comprehensive way unfortunately.
Then 2 years later he got MAC lung. Mycobacteruium Avium Complex a rare non contagious form of TB. The ID doctor was worried the untreated lung infection(drugs are rough and often don't work,) could cause the MAC infection to spread. Fortunately the anti-fungal, anti-viral and anti- bacterial drugs took care of that for him during the chemo and transplant process. He is still on some of those drugs post transplant I believe.
It has been brought to my attention, that this AML/MDS ( quite low white blood cell count since 2015 with no further action taken), could be at the root of both the autoimmune Uveitis, and MAC which is caused by opportunistic infections.
I know it may seem irrelevant at this point. But it bothers me a lot. And it is of no interest to the doctors. But I think this would be of interest to the clinical research community. Another time maybe I guess. Have to stay focused.
Hoping I am not overwhelming you.
Meanwhile I have made a few friends. One a caretaker and one a patient and I am helping them both by sharing my research and resources. In fact is it OK if I direct them to you for additional support?
For another time. I am working on a memoir and hoping to realize some dreams. I do have a professional writing background so that should be helpful.
If you know of any professional resources by any chance thanks for letting me know.
With love 💖 and so much appreciation.
Lodi
It’s so good to hear from you! And never worry about overwhelming me. I’m small but mighty. LOL.
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Hi Lodi! It’s great to hear from you!! You’ll see a reply box right above this one with instructions how to easily find our conversations for future reference. I lose conversations too! ☺️
Ok, from my reckoning your partner is about 80 days post transplant? Hasn’t hit that ‘magical’ 100 day mark. At that point any GVHd that surfaces tends to be less voracious and considered chronic instead of acute. So for now, he should still be on all his medications. They will include his anti-rejection drug (probably tacrolimus), an antiviral, antifungal, one or two antibiotics, ursodial for his liver and possibly a proton pump inhibitor for his stomach and magnesium.
He’ll remain on those meds for as long as he’s taking the tacrolimus (or similar). That immunosuppressant, like the name says, is holding back his immune system from trying to attack his body. By doing so, he has no working immune system right now and is vulnerable to everything. So his bottles of pills are subbing for his immune system. Even as he weans off the Tacro and other meds, it will take 2 years for a new immune system to be fully up and running and it will never be as robust as the factory installed model. ☺️. He will always be considered immunocompromised.
Really have a doctor keep tabs on the potential lung condition too. Again, you don’t want things that are small now, to become a major issue later. It can happen very easily with a new transplant patient. I’m not trying to frighten you. It is what it is. We stem cell transplant people are on some untested grounds as far as how things will affect us. Nothing is certain and definitely doesn’t go by the book.
You didn’t mention his pre-existing conditions before. But there is some potential good news! With his new immune system his previous existing autoimmune conditions will be gone! He starts with a clean slate. So I agree, it would be interesting for his doctors to take a look into his eye situation (no pun intended) to see if this is the case!
He really needs to see an ophthalmologist soon to make sure he’s not having any GVHD in that eye! If something can be done now, it might be caught before it becomes chronic.
His transplant doctor is in no position to diagnose an eye GvHD issue. I had some unusual things happening to my eyes about 2 months after transplant and my doctor sent me immediately to an ophthalmologist. It was easier because I was at Mayo and they work so seamlessly between departments. But I learned early on, you don’t let any little thing go…it can become dire very quickly.
Skin is a big issue for GvHD so I’m happy to hear the steroid cream and Vaseline is helping. It should get less over time but he has to be really vigilant to stay out of the sun and to keep his skin lotioned up all the time.
Lodi, I’m so relieved you’re finding someone local to talk with and to help out! By all means have them contact me on this forum or, I can easily be reached by private message too. Click on my bio of @loribmt and there’s Send Private Message in the lower left corner.
Oh that’s fabulous to write your memoirs! You need some time to devote to yourself and no better way to do that then re-explore your beginnings and see how far you’ve come! What professional resources are you looking for? I have a very dear friend who is a writer and helps others write their memoirs.
Hi Lori- When you get a chance, thanks for letting me know you got my post today. Please reply to the actual post only when convenient. I just want to make sure the post went through. Thanks!
Hi Dear Lori-
So, here I am again, back three weeks later and I always feel badly about my delayed response because of all your amazing efforts. I hope you understand that I am very appreciative of your detailed quick responses. I get very overwhelmed with our endless "to-do" lists, overwhelmed emotionally, always living with a constant underlying sense of unease. Sometimes, just getting through each day is all I can do. And we are grateful as he has had almost no side effects. I appreciate your caregiver links and I did look at the Podcast. I am aware of what a caregiver should do to take care of themselves but will do better soon. Anxious about the next BMB and getting past day one hundred. We are at day 90 today! Thanks for the update on what to expect with medications Learning from you from the patient’s perspective is most helpful because I gain insight into the disease process and how to best to put myself in Richard's shoes.
I had not yet mentioned Richard's underlying conditions. It has been 6 months since he had a CT scan of his lungs which is typical, but with the new diagnosis and treatment, I think somebody should be watching over his lungs more closely. There was no pulmonologist on the transplant team. Same with his eyes, which is less of a concern as he controls mild symptoms with limited use of steroid drops. You are lucky to have Mayo and all that great coordinated specialist care.
He has started to move in the right direction as he has recently reached out to a couple of his pulmonologists and is scheduling a lung CT scan tomorrow. There was no pulmonologist on the transplant team. I think his eyes, since they are doing okay for the most part, will have to wait because of the Pandemic.
Re: the memoir. I am a decent creative writer, and I may have mentioned I wrote professionally for architects and engineers, which is helpful. I have been looking into the boundless information online re: coaches, courses, and it is overwhelming. Since the Pandemic, everyone wants to publish their stories. It is a very crowded field and too many options to choose from re: authors, coaches. Hoping to identify a coach or course led by an experienced instructor/author with a track record in medical narrative or medical memoirs if possible. I would like to identify someone who is work a professional who can help me through the entire process including concept development, the narrative, publishing, and marketing. Right now, I am feeling a little discouraged because everyone is telling a story, and many, are high quality. I am also a fairly accomplished painter and was considering integrating the artwork with the narrative.
I know you have so much to be thankful for and you deserve the best of luck in life! Wishing you a wonderful holiday season…including good health above all, inner peace, and lots of joy and humor. Do not forget to hang a guardian angel on your tree, one in your image, who faithfully guides your loyal following and yourself as well, down this complex winding path.
Warm regards and hugs too,
Lodi
Hi again, Lori
I forgot to mention, thank you for sharing that you had a friend who might be able to offer guidance with the memoir. And, also for offering to help several other friends I've made on the same journey. People do sometimes shy away from reaching out, but I appreciate your kindness all the same and will share your information.
Looking forward to our continued conversations!
Thanks!
Lorraine
Happy Thanksgiving to you and Richard, Lodi. Wow, he’s coming up on that all important Day 100. It’s not a magical number but it is a really big mile stone! At that point his leash will be loosened a little and hopefully your life will be finding some normalcy soon too.
I know as caregiver the onus of everything has been thrust on your shoulders, my dear. So I completely understand the delay in responding. I’m a no pressure zone! ☺️
Let’s get back to Day 100. After that point it’s felt that the danger of any acute GvHD has passed as the new stem cells are beginning to recognize Richard’s body and setting up housekeeping to restore his immune system. That takes time and patience. Ahead might also be some reductions in his Tacrolimus, the anti-rejection meds. With that, there is always a possibility of the new stem cells ‘testing the waters’ and creating some little GvHD issues along the way. Make sure if Richard senses anything different that he brings this to the attention of his transplant team.
I’d been doing amazingly well and then about 2 weeks after my first reduction toward tapering off Tacro, I started getting serious pains in my wrists and hands. Looked like rheumatoid arthritis was happening. Never had that before. But after MRIs and a host of blood work, the rheumatologist and my transplant doctor felt it was GvHD. A burst of steroids halted that in its tracks. So encourage Richard not to let little things go. It’s better to report so it’s at least documented.
How did his CT scan turn out? It’s good news that he’s turning proactive again with his help. At this 3 month mark, he’ll start feeling ‘somewhat’ healthy again. Long way to go so I don’t want him to get disappointed if there are good days and then ‘resting days’.
Hah, you’re right, i think Covid has left a lot of people with extra time on their hands granting the ability to reflect on their lives and contemplate their navels, as we say in our house. Don’t let that discourage YOU from stymieing your creative juices! We all need an outlet. You have some hidden treasures with your writing and painting talents! What’s your favorite medium for painting?
I want to wish you and Richard a special Thanksgiving. You’ve both come so far this past year, with your strength and commitment to each other being very apparent. We never know what lies ahead at any given time, do we? It’s important to celebrate every day.
I’m so grateful to have been given this second chance at life. It’s allowed me to enjoy this 3rd Thanksgiving after transplant! I won’t ever take another moment for granted.
I do have a guardian angel and I know I’ve been blessed with my health. My positive outlook and sense of humor along with tons of prayers, support from family, friends, my donor and my transplant team have kept me alive. And with that, I’ve also been blessed with another family, here on Connect. So Happy Thanksgiving, Lodi. We’re in this together. ☺️
Hi Lodi! Just popping in for a pre-holiday check up. 🤶🏻 How’s Richard doing? He’s in month 4 post SCT now. He should be cruising along a little easier with life taking on some normalcy and predictability. He’ll also be able to resume a few more activities around the house as his energy and stamina pick up. As always, avoiding illness is his goal. So, masking up is essential anywhere out in public or if people are in your home.
This is where I add; With a SCT you really need to keep a sense of humor and a sense of adventure because there can be these random, capricious side events at any given time, especially if there’s a Tacrolimus taper. Usually nothing earth moving…aches here, a rash there, tender joints, etc. He should report anything out of the ordinary to his team for consideration.
While he’s past the early stages of transplant where Acute graft vs host can run rampant, chronic GvHD is always a possibility, but generally develops slowly and is most often manageable. You just don’t want to let it get out ahead.
I hope you’re also doing well and getting back into a rhythm for yourself. It’s a challenge to balance everything. I know you’re compassionate and caring, and have dedicated the past year or so to getting your husband healthy and whole. But it’s easy to lose yourself in the process. You have your artistic side that needs to be expressed! So I do hope you’re finding the path back to YOU!
We’re getting ready to leave your warm state of Florida to return to Wisconsin for the holidays. Brrrr. To quote Arnold: We’ll be baaaack! (End of January into March!). It’s going to be a shocker in the meantime. I have to wear long pants again and find my shoes!! And socks! 😂
Hi Lori-
Always great to hear from you! Would have loved to connect in FL...maybe next trip!
So news here...just the facts! My partner contracted Epstein Barr Virus a few weeks ago which accelerated and then seemed to disappear. His blood work is all over the charts...out of range RBC, WBC, ABN etc. Platelets are OK. They gave him an infusion of Rituximab last Monday for Epstein Barr and I'm not sure if they will continue as the virus appears to now be undetected!
His chimerism was at 75% in the second number (T cells) and 100% for 1,3 and 4. They have reduced the Tacro, which is now at a normal level, 7, thinking that may solve the problem.
He just had a BMB and we are waiting for the cytogenetics.
That's the story at the moment. Wishing you a wonderful holiday season!
Many thanks always for just being you!
Always be kind to yourself. You deserve it!
Warm regards,
Lorraine
Hi Lodi! ! It’s always a pleasure to hear from you and to catch up on Richard’s progress.
Oh those pesky viruses. EBV and also CMV are 2 viruses that can appear anytime someone has a compromised immune system if already a carrier. Both are so common in the general population, something like 80% of people carry the virus. In most instances our body’s immune system keeps them from proliferating and causing any issues.
Before transplant the donor and the recipients blood is tested for the possibility of the viruses. In my case, i was a rare bird and had no previous CMV in my blood. But my donor did. So after transplant my blood was monitored weekly for CMV. At about the same point in time where Richard is in his transplant, CMV started to show up in my bloodwork. My tacro was reduced a little and that did the trick. It’s basically giving a little longer leash to the new, aggressive stem cells to see if they will do their job at defending against the virus. In my case, it worked wonders.
You’re right that your husband may not need any more Rituximab with his tacro trough being down to 7. That’s the ‘sweet spot’… Enough suppression to keep any gvhd down and still allows his immune system to work some magic.
Waiting for the results of the BMB is a test of patience, isn’t i? It usually takes 5 days until all of the segments of the biopsy and examination are complete. I’m hoping all is well and that donor DNA rules! 😉
Thank you for your sweet comments. I’m really feeling 100% back to normal and grateful to be waking up every morning. Every day is a gift which I’ll never take for granted again.
Have you been doing any painting or writing? ☺️