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@windwalker...Hi Terri...My recent research has turned up a very interesting article showing plants in use in other countries that appear to be effective against MAC and TB. You need to click on the PDF to view the entire article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1076/phbi.35.2.77.13284 . It is somewhat extensive but if you look at the chart midway you can see the herbs that work on MAC. The one that I am most interested in and I have ordered is Oplopanax horridus (Devil's Club) . There are many corroborating articles written...https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9392889 and http://kylenorton.healthblogs.org/2011/11/27/the-world-most-popular-herbs-devils-club-oplopanax-horridus-health-benefits-and-side-effects/
Anyway...I am very excited...It is a readily available plant tincture and very reasonable. I put this info out there as an alternative to those that cannot tolerate the antibiotics or for people, like myself, that refuse them. I will keep you posted. Oh...Just did hear from Mayo today that they will NOT work with my insurance so I need to wait till January and switch insurance. Hope you are doing well and feeling good. Thanks for all your hard work. xxoo Kathy

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@colleenyoung ...best i can come up with...

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1076/phbi.35.2.77.13284
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9392889

and the following excerpt: from this article ( http://cms.herbalgram.org/herbalgram/issue62/article2697.html?ts=1533176966&signature=956770716fa69ff2ad1da3406ba5b62e )

The earliest, and some of the only, published descriptive phytochemical work that has been conducted on the North American devil’s club is by Kariyone and Morotomi,47 who described a sesquiterpene (equinopanacene) and a sesquiterpene alcohol (equinopanacol) in O. horridus. In more recent phytochemical investigations on O. horridus, Bloxton et al.48 reported a number of sterols and four sesquiterpenes, one of which (spatulenol) is novel to the genus. Kobaisy et al.11 described two novel and three previously described polyenes, one of which (oplopandiol) has recently been synthesized.18 These acetylenes all display significant antimycobacterial and antifungal activity49 and most are active against common bacteria such as Staphylococcus aureus, Bacillus subtilis, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Escherichia coli, and Candida albicans. These compounds are also active against Mycobacterium tuberculosis and Mycobacterium avium, both of which can cause significant clinical tuberculosis, particularly virulent in immuno-compromised hosts, AIDS patients being especially vulnerable. Notably, these pathogens are also responsible for the epidemic status of tuberculosis in Canada’s indigenous population.50 Since many strains of M. tuberculosis and M. avium are also resistant to the most commonly used antimycobacterial drugs, there is considerable interest in the potential of devil’s club in tuberculosis therapy. Extracts of devil’s club inner bark also partially inhibit a respiratory syncytial virus.9

@alleycatkate Thank you for posting this. It was an interesting read. I like that NIH recognizes it's benefits as well.

Thanks for taking the time to find and post these articles, @alleycatkate. I appreciate it.

@colleenyoung, @alleycatcate, @pfists, Good point that Colleen brought up. Always let your physician know what herbs and suppliments you are interested in trying. Not all things combine well. One can even cancel out the other.

@windwalker
Yes I have discussed the herbs I am taking with my pulmonologist.
He was "ok" with them. I'm pretty sure he thinks after a year and half of negative mycobacteria abcessus results that they are possibly the reason. But at the time I told him I'm not ready for the big gun antibiotics yet and wanted to try these herbs.
But every case is different and you should check with your Dr.
According to the my book "Herbal Antibiotcs" and web searches there hasn't been any negative side effects to the two I use by anyone yet.
But that doesn't mean that there can't ever be negative side effect. Also if your using any herbs I would recommend to make sure you use a supplier you can thoroughly trust. My herbs have been checked by a third party lab to make sure what is on the lable is exactly in the bottle.
If You have used antibiotics and they failed to work on your MAC it seems reasonable to give these a try to me.
Take care everyone!
Shari

@pfists so sorry if you've already provided, but which herbal antibiotics are you taking?

Hey everyone...please keep in mind that the vast majority of traditional medicine docs know little to nothing about other-than-RX-treatments. And few are interested in learning about them. Best bet is to find a great alternative medicine practitioner for guidance.

@boomerexpert There is a lot of truth in that statement. That is why I implore that people who are seriously infected seek treatment at a non-profit research medical facility. (like Mayo, NIH, Cleveland, etc.) because they are cutting-edge with up-to-date info. Anti-biotics do not work for everyone, so it is nice to have Alternative medicine as another avenue.

@boomerexpert, I did buy some Ashwagandha yesterday.

Good. May your adrenal fatigue be no more now!