@windyshores, well now I only have 9 days to go on 3 clicks and I can try for 4 clicks. I hope that works since you had trouble at 4 for a while. Six weeks ago I have my L 4-6 nerves were burned with radio frequently. So no feeling till the nerve endings grow back. which could take two years. So far no fractures that I know of. I guess the tortoise will stay behind and give the hare a little push forward from behind. As long as we stay well and healthy, we can do this. It is going to rain here all day today and tomorrow. So will be in the house making more applesauce. Take care and keep me informed. KLH