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Welcome to the Caregivers group on Mayo Clinic Connect.
Caring for someone can be rewarding, but it is also very demanding and can be isolating. Let's use this space to connect with other caregivers, share experiences, talk frankly about the tough stuff without judgement and to provide a virtual shoulder to lean on.

I'm Colleen, and I'm the moderator of this group, and Community Director of Connect. I look forwarding to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Grab a cup of tea, or beverage of you choice, and let's chat. Why not start by introducing yourself?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Caregivers Support Group.

@jugar

Hi Colleen, Sorry for the delayed reply and thank you for checking in. The last two weeks have been chaotic. When at the hospital to meet the transplant team to begin the interviews, my husband was in such bad shape, they immediately admitted him and began the physical evals. Within 2 days, the ICU roller coaster began. It was touch n go for several days. The team has worked tirelessly to get him stable, so they can complete the testing and formally submit his case. They all believe he will be approved despite the fact the addiction has not and is not being addressed. We live 125 miles away from the hospital he is in - which has made my visits more infrequent. He is adamant to come home; I am equally as adamant I can't care for him in this condition. It's a battle and he is angry and frustrated with me, thinking I am being unreasonable and selfish. I reached out to the transplant team today to ask them to slow the roll on the discharge. They were under the impression there is fulltime care here at home, which there is not. It's just me and with work, all the more challenging. The man is still on a feeding tube and catheter so I am puzzled as to why there is such urgency to release him. ? Pretty sure it's coming from my husband. Now I am wallowing in guilt - questioning if I did the right thing sending the brutally honest email - yet knowing I did. Fearing they will not approve him now; fearing they will. His pre-transplant care plan has now become a glaring issue for the transplant panel. I've been clear I cannot be the primary or secondary post-caregiver. Now I feel trapped that I have to be the pre-care provider. I am not heartless and want to do what is right ... but I am struggling more then ever. So very, very tired.

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I am so sorry to hear of the crisis you faced, but sometimes it can be a blessing in disguise. It gives the transplant panel more time to see and assess the whole picture. It gives you time to evaluate and clearly articulate what you can and cannot handle.

But I am encouraged to see that you are standing firm in your assertion that you cannot be his post-caregiver. Every person in this complex equation must be forthright in saying what they can and cannot do so that the right decisions and arrangements can be made. Please, do not let guilt or his anger force you into a situation that you cannot handle safely - for you or for him. That is the definition of bullying, which you don't have to tolerate.

Also, there are facilities, a step down from hospital, and a step up from a skilled nursing home, that are equipped to care for people with feeding tubes, catheters, etc. Perhaps the hospital's social services can locate one where your husband can be cared for in his current condition.

Do you personally have a counselor or pastor to whom you can comfortably speak? It can be helpful in processing your feelings, so you won't feel so overwhelmed. You definitely are not heartless, but "what is right" must be both of you - not just him - and both pre- and post- plans must take that into consideration.

Please feel free to continue to share your concerns with us, we're here to listen and try to help you sort out your feelings.
Sue

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@jugar

Hi Colleen, Sorry for the delayed reply and thank you for checking in. The last two weeks have been chaotic. When at the hospital to meet the transplant team to begin the interviews, my husband was in such bad shape, they immediately admitted him and began the physical evals. Within 2 days, the ICU roller coaster began. It was touch n go for several days. The team has worked tirelessly to get him stable, so they can complete the testing and formally submit his case. They all believe he will be approved despite the fact the addiction has not and is not being addressed. We live 125 miles away from the hospital he is in - which has made my visits more infrequent. He is adamant to come home; I am equally as adamant I can't care for him in this condition. It's a battle and he is angry and frustrated with me, thinking I am being unreasonable and selfish. I reached out to the transplant team today to ask them to slow the roll on the discharge. They were under the impression there is fulltime care here at home, which there is not. It's just me and with work, all the more challenging. The man is still on a feeding tube and catheter so I am puzzled as to why there is such urgency to release him. ? Pretty sure it's coming from my husband. Now I am wallowing in guilt - questioning if I did the right thing sending the brutally honest email - yet knowing I did. Fearing they will not approve him now; fearing they will. His pre-transplant care plan has now become a glaring issue for the transplant panel. I've been clear I cannot be the primary or secondary post-caregiver. Now I feel trapped that I have to be the pre-care provider. I am not heartless and want to do what is right ... but I am struggling more then ever. So very, very tired.

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@jugar Please do not feel guilty for being honest with yourself and the transplant team! They may have been told by your husband that everything is in place, so that they would release him. It's good that you have made it clear the reality of the situation. "Stick to your guns" as they say, knowing you have to do what is best for both you and your husband.
Ginger

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@jugar

Hi Colleen, Sorry for the delayed reply and thank you for checking in. The last two weeks have been chaotic. When at the hospital to meet the transplant team to begin the interviews, my husband was in such bad shape, they immediately admitted him and began the physical evals. Within 2 days, the ICU roller coaster began. It was touch n go for several days. The team has worked tirelessly to get him stable, so they can complete the testing and formally submit his case. They all believe he will be approved despite the fact the addiction has not and is not being addressed. We live 125 miles away from the hospital he is in - which has made my visits more infrequent. He is adamant to come home; I am equally as adamant I can't care for him in this condition. It's a battle and he is angry and frustrated with me, thinking I am being unreasonable and selfish. I reached out to the transplant team today to ask them to slow the roll on the discharge. They were under the impression there is fulltime care here at home, which there is not. It's just me and with work, all the more challenging. The man is still on a feeding tube and catheter so I am puzzled as to why there is such urgency to release him. ? Pretty sure it's coming from my husband. Now I am wallowing in guilt - questioning if I did the right thing sending the brutally honest email - yet knowing I did. Fearing they will not approve him now; fearing they will. His pre-transplant care plan has now become a glaring issue for the transplant panel. I've been clear I cannot be the primary or secondary post-caregiver. Now I feel trapped that I have to be the pre-care provider. I am not heartless and want to do what is right ... but I am struggling more then ever. So very, very tired.

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@jugar, I strongly recommend that you ask to meet with a transplant social worker. You need someone who understands and can guide you and help you navigate the practical and emotional aspects of your husband's medical needs, the reality of caregiving and the potential miscommunications between all parties involved. This is not something you need to solve on your own. It's a team effort and the transplant social workers are there for YOU as well as the patient.

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Hi, Colleen, I'm Marianne, and have been a caregiver for my husband for a number of years now, at different levels. We both lost our spouses after long marriages (40 & 44 years), and met online, and have been married almost 14 years. My husband had a long time wound on his foot resulting from a jeep accident when in the Army, more than 50 years before. Wound care was a big part of our life from the beginning, but there also was healing, to be followed, perhaps a year later with recurrence.

About 3 years ago, it was discovered that he had a neuroendocrine tumor on his pancreas, and while it was not thought to be a present problem, it has necessitated a monthly shot, and routine scans. 6 months ago, a malignant tumor on the head of his pancreas was discovered, and the surgeon removed it stating he thought he got it all, and there were no other organs affected. We breathed a sigh of relief, of course, but chemo began to try to keep anything else from developing. Well, it has now metastasized to his liver, and yesterday the oncologist strongly suggested we end chemo, as it was not going to do anything to retard the spread, and only continue my husband's terrible side affects from the chemo.

I'm now in shock, my husband who has a very strong faith, is resolute that it's the will of God, while I'm angry that God is not protecting one of his strongest believers, and such a good man. I don't know what to expect as the doc wasn't at all helpful, saying everyone's journey is different. We have a lot to do to prepare, and I must be as strong as my husband is, but it's going to be so difficult. I know I'm not alone in facing this, and would love to hear how others have coped.

Thanks for this website. Marianne

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@flanagan1

Hi, Colleen, I'm Marianne, and have been a caregiver for my husband for a number of years now, at different levels. We both lost our spouses after long marriages (40 & 44 years), and met online, and have been married almost 14 years. My husband had a long time wound on his foot resulting from a jeep accident when in the Army, more than 50 years before. Wound care was a big part of our life from the beginning, but there also was healing, to be followed, perhaps a year later with recurrence.

About 3 years ago, it was discovered that he had a neuroendocrine tumor on his pancreas, and while it was not thought to be a present problem, it has necessitated a monthly shot, and routine scans. 6 months ago, a malignant tumor on the head of his pancreas was discovered, and the surgeon removed it stating he thought he got it all, and there were no other organs affected. We breathed a sigh of relief, of course, but chemo began to try to keep anything else from developing. Well, it has now metastasized to his liver, and yesterday the oncologist strongly suggested we end chemo, as it was not going to do anything to retard the spread, and only continue my husband's terrible side affects from the chemo.

I'm now in shock, my husband who has a very strong faith, is resolute that it's the will of God, while I'm angry that God is not protecting one of his strongest believers, and such a good man. I don't know what to expect as the doc wasn't at all helpful, saying everyone's journey is different. We have a lot to do to prepare, and I must be as strong as my husband is, but it's going to be so difficult. I know I'm not alone in facing this, and would love to hear how others have coped.

Thanks for this website. Marianne

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Hello @flanagan1 I'm Scott and I'm glad you found Mayo Connect and this caregiver portion of the community. I was my wife's caregiver during her 14+ year war with brain cancer and am sorry to read of your husband's health. I know each patient's path is unique, their disease unique to them, as is each caregiver's journey. I offer my sympathy and will talk a bit about what we learned and experienced hoping it might help. Please ask any questions you may have!

My wife and I also found ourselves in the position of her doctors advising that further treatments would not result in any improvement to her quality of life. Throughout her war she always believed that quality of life was far more important to her than quantity. That said, it didn't make the journey at all an easy one, but it did provide us with a guide to help us absorb the tough decisions and times (especially times of waiting and uncertainty).

I wish I'd have discovered why some folks get cancer and others don't, but that remains one of the mysteries of life for all of us. While it is very uncomfortable to think about and talk about, one of the most important things my wife and I did while she was still mentally able was get our estate/wills etc. in order. We also made sure our POA, advance directives, and MPOA were in order and added our adult children to her HIPPA approval forms so they could also speak directly with her doctors. She also gave a number of her favorite possessions to family and friends so she could explain why they were important to her, wrote down her desires for her remains, and designed the celebration of life she wanted. Down the road, knowing these were my wife's decisions was a huge help and lifted a burden from many.

I wish you Strength, Courage, & Peace

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@flanagan1

Hi, Colleen, I'm Marianne, and have been a caregiver for my husband for a number of years now, at different levels. We both lost our spouses after long marriages (40 & 44 years), and met online, and have been married almost 14 years. My husband had a long time wound on his foot resulting from a jeep accident when in the Army, more than 50 years before. Wound care was a big part of our life from the beginning, but there also was healing, to be followed, perhaps a year later with recurrence.

About 3 years ago, it was discovered that he had a neuroendocrine tumor on his pancreas, and while it was not thought to be a present problem, it has necessitated a monthly shot, and routine scans. 6 months ago, a malignant tumor on the head of his pancreas was discovered, and the surgeon removed it stating he thought he got it all, and there were no other organs affected. We breathed a sigh of relief, of course, but chemo began to try to keep anything else from developing. Well, it has now metastasized to his liver, and yesterday the oncologist strongly suggested we end chemo, as it was not going to do anything to retard the spread, and only continue my husband's terrible side affects from the chemo.

I'm now in shock, my husband who has a very strong faith, is resolute that it's the will of God, while I'm angry that God is not protecting one of his strongest believers, and such a good man. I don't know what to expect as the doc wasn't at all helpful, saying everyone's journey is different. We have a lot to do to prepare, and I must be as strong as my husband is, but it's going to be so difficult. I know I'm not alone in facing this, and would love to hear how others have coped.

Thanks for this website. Marianne

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I’m so sorry. For us, Hospice has been a great help, especially with the practical side of things.

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Yes, we have heard that Hospice is wonderful, however, and gratefully, we're not yet in need of Hospice, as he's not yet showing symptoms from the cancer. He had side affects from the chemo, but since it's been eliminated, I guess we can expect symptoms from the cancer spread at some future point, and that's the scary part for us in not knowing when, and how he'll be affected. Thanks for your answer.

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@IndianaScott

Hello @flanagan1 I'm Scott and I'm glad you found Mayo Connect and this caregiver portion of the community. I was my wife's caregiver during her 14+ year war with brain cancer and am sorry to read of your husband's health. I know each patient's path is unique, their disease unique to them, as is each caregiver's journey. I offer my sympathy and will talk a bit about what we learned and experienced hoping it might help. Please ask any questions you may have!

My wife and I also found ourselves in the position of her doctors advising that further treatments would not result in any improvement to her quality of life. Throughout her war she always believed that quality of life was far more important to her than quantity. That said, it didn't make the journey at all an easy one, but it did provide us with a guide to help us absorb the tough decisions and times (especially times of waiting and uncertainty).

I wish I'd have discovered why some folks get cancer and others don't, but that remains one of the mysteries of life for all of us. While it is very uncomfortable to think about and talk about, one of the most important things my wife and I did while she was still mentally able was get our estate/wills etc. in order. We also made sure our POA, advance directives, and MPOA were in order and added our adult children to her HIPPA approval forms so they could also speak directly with her doctors. She also gave a number of her favorite possessions to family and friends so she could explain why they were important to her, wrote down her desires for her remains, and designed the celebration of life she wanted. Down the road, knowing these were my wife's decisions was a huge help and lifted a burden from many.

I wish you Strength, Courage, & Peace

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, Scott. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been for you and your wife having to wage a 14 year battle, but that you're sharing your experience with others is to the benefit of all of us on this website.

We do have personal business matters to complete, and my husband has already thought about how he'd like to distribute personal items to specific people who might be interested in having them. We pray for as much decent quality of life that's left to us.

Please know your words have great value to me and I return the wish of Strength, Courage and Peace. Thank you so much! Marianne

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Hello. My husband has been fighting/managing a chronic illness for 7 or so years now. He has lived longer than most who have his rare disease. How do you all manage being your own person with being there for your loved one? suggestions? I endeavor to be grateful and to live in each day and not focus on what is down the road, emotionally, that is. There is so much uncertainty and then with the pandemic on top, we are not able to see our kids or grandkids in person much. Thank goodness for technology though. Sometimes I feel alone in this situation.....Also, I am sad to see my partners' health decline, to watch the person I love so much being so challenged. I am grateful for the life we have had and we still have and want to make it the best I can.

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@l32

Hello. My husband has been fighting/managing a chronic illness for 7 or so years now. He has lived longer than most who have his rare disease. How do you all manage being your own person with being there for your loved one? suggestions? I endeavor to be grateful and to live in each day and not focus on what is down the road, emotionally, that is. There is so much uncertainty and then with the pandemic on top, we are not able to see our kids or grandkids in person much. Thank goodness for technology though. Sometimes I feel alone in this situation.....Also, I am sad to see my partners' health decline, to watch the person I love so much being so challenged. I am grateful for the life we have had and we still have and want to make it the best I can.

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Hello @l32 My name is Scott and I was my wife's caregiver during her almost decade and a half war with brain cancer. I agree with you that life as a caregiver is a tough one and difficult to manage! I know each patient's journey, disease, and that of their caregiver are unique, but I can share some of my experiences in the hope they might be of help.

I found the only way I could manage was to look at caregiving as a fusing of my wife's life and mine in a way I never imagined when we married and figured our lives were joined then. Rather than two lives, I saw it as half of hers and half of mine. Her disease caused her to give up so much of her life and I, in turn, gave up parts of mine to help her. My view was I was living a new life in that way.

I appreciated your oxygen mask line. As much as I always understand this on an airplane, personally, I found this was not always possible as a caregiver. There were simply many times my wife's needs had to come first. Additionally, there were many aspects of our lives that took a backseat to where they usually had been before. Tasks became divided quickly between "must do" and "used to do". This helped me not become overwhelmed and being OK seeing certain tasks, etc. as unnecessary due to the new demands of a life with caregiving at its core. For instance, dust bunnies became pets rather than a byproduct of my lack of dusting and vacuuming enough 🙂

I also agree caregiving can be extremely isolating. I sure felt it was in my case and like you utilized as much technology as possible to combat those feelings. That's actually how I discovered Mayo Connect. I also used 'old tech' such as writing letters, which gave me something to look forward to in the mail and offered me something I could do at odd hours.

I hope this helped. I am always happy to answer any questions!

I wish you Strength, Courage, & Peace

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