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NASH, stage III with bridging fibrosis

Posted by irhon79 @irhon79, Jun 8, 2021

Good morning. I received this diagnosis in March, NASH, stage III with bridging fibrosis I am working on serious lifestyle changes, including eating whole plant based foods and daily exercise. I have lost 10 lbs so far. I feel like I'm going through a grieving process. Is that normal? Should I seek a counselor?
I'm not sure if this is serious. Will this be totally resolved with weight loss? If so, then no big deal, right? Lose weight, life goes back to normal with new diet guidelines. No worries?
My GI doc says I should try Weight Watchers, if I want. She says to do whatever diet is right for me, but how do I know what is right?
I just lost my thyroid to atrophy and I dont know how that happened. I am diabetic, type 2. I am overwhelmed yet feel like I shouldn't be. Then I feel guilt for feeling overwhelmed and should be more stoic and dedicated to weight loss. Most of my life I was active, until I started having thyroid problems. The fatigue would come over me in waves and I found fast food was so much easier than trying to cook and
clean. I quickly gained weight, even when I cut back on calories. Thank you for listening.

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donnacarp | @donnacarp | Jun 9, 2021

I started Weight Watchers way back in 2001 when my summer ankle pants were too tight. It made me so mad that I decided I had to do something drastic. It is a great program and having somewhere to go with the whole weight loss thing was a blessing. I know a lot about nutrition but that didn't help. I don't like being alone with my "issues" and in Weight Watchers meetings people talk about everything with people who care and understand. When I started, even the mention of the possibility of emotions was horrifying to so many and even my leader frowned on it. Now! Emotional eating can definitely be a factor. Since I have been on a plant based diet the weight isn't a problem so much unless I decide I am going to eat sweets all the time - my form of emotional boredom eating and I crave sweets when I have a migraine coming on. Knowing my patterns has really helped. I would encourage you to try it. You can always quit.

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irhon79 | @irhon79 | Jun 9, 2021

Thank you. I will try it.

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Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor | @rosemarya | Jun 14, 2021

I also followed the weight watcher diet when I wanted to lose some weight prior to being listed for a liver transplant. I was successful during the 7 months that I adhered to the charts and points (this was in 2008). It worked for me because I made a game out of counting and planning my meals! After my transplant, however, I found it to be too restrictive when I needed to regain some muscle mass. At that point I began to follow the Mayo Clinic Diet Plan because it stressed the food groups for a healthy lifestyle. It is my go-to today. I especially like the non-guilt and the tips for breaking bad eating habits and for adding good eating habits.
Here is some information about weight loss basics. It includes information about healthy eating, diet plans, and the Mayo Clinic Diet.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/basics/weightloss-basics/hlv-20049483
I want to invite you to take a look at the Healthy Living Discussion Group on Mayo Connect where members share their weight loss questions and experiences. I suggest that you go to the link that is below, and then scroll thru the list of topics. You might be surprised at all of the diet related topics that are being discussed. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/healthy-living/

@irhon79, @donnacarp, Your questions, comments, and your experiences are always welcome in any of our discussions.

irhon79, How is your doctor going to monitor your NASH?

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Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor | @rosemarya | Jun 14, 2021

@irhon79, Here is more dietary information related to NASH

Transplant Page Blog > NASH Patients: Add These Foods to Your Diet
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/transplant/newsfeed-post/nash-patients-add-these-foods-to-your-diet/

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irhon79 | @irhon79 | Jun 14, 2021
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@rosemarya

I also followed the weight watcher diet when I wanted to lose some weight prior to being listed for a liver transplant. I was successful during the 7 months that I adhered to the charts and points (this was in 2008). It worked for me because I made a game out of counting and planning my meals! After my transplant, however, I found it to be too restrictive when I needed to regain some muscle mass. At that point I began to follow the Mayo Clinic Diet Plan because it stressed the food groups for a healthy lifestyle. It is my go-to today. I especially like the non-guilt and the tips for breaking bad eating habits and for adding good eating habits.
Here is some information about weight loss basics. It includes information about healthy eating, diet plans, and the Mayo Clinic Diet.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/basics/weightloss-basics/hlv-20049483
I want to invite you to take a look at the Healthy Living Discussion Group on Mayo Connect where members share their weight loss questions and experiences. I suggest that you go to the link that is below, and then scroll thru the list of topics. You might be surprised at all of the diet related topics that are being discussed. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/healthy-living/

@irhon79, @donnacarp, Your questions, comments, and your experiences are always welcome in any of our discussions.

irhon79, How is your doctor going to monitor your NASH?

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I'm not sure. I see the GI RN about every 8 weeks.

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irhon79 | @irhon79 | Jun 14, 2021
In reply to @rosemarya "@irhon79, Here is more dietary information related to NASH Transplant Page Blog > NASH Patients: Add..." + (show)
@rosemarya

@irhon79, Here is more dietary information related to NASH

Transplant Page Blog > NASH Patients: Add These Foods to Your Diet
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/transplant/newsfeed-post/nash-patients-add-these-foods-to-your-diet/

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Thank you. This is very good info. I'm grateful for you.

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donnacarp | @donnacarp | Jun 14, 2021
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@rosemarya

I also followed the weight watcher diet when I wanted to lose some weight prior to being listed for a liver transplant. I was successful during the 7 months that I adhered to the charts and points (this was in 2008). It worked for me because I made a game out of counting and planning my meals! After my transplant, however, I found it to be too restrictive when I needed to regain some muscle mass. At that point I began to follow the Mayo Clinic Diet Plan because it stressed the food groups for a healthy lifestyle. It is my go-to today. I especially like the non-guilt and the tips for breaking bad eating habits and for adding good eating habits.
Here is some information about weight loss basics. It includes information about healthy eating, diet plans, and the Mayo Clinic Diet.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/basics/weightloss-basics/hlv-20049483
I want to invite you to take a look at the Healthy Living Discussion Group on Mayo Connect where members share their weight loss questions and experiences. I suggest that you go to the link that is below, and then scroll thru the list of topics. You might be surprised at all of the diet related topics that are being discussed. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/healthy-living/

@irhon79, @donnacarp, Your questions, comments, and your experiences are always welcome in any of our discussions.

irhon79, How is your doctor going to monitor your NASH?

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Thankfully there is something for everyone . Today I follow Dr Gregor and use the plant based diet. I find it much more suited to me given my preferences and way of life
I do miss weight watchers meeting

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Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor | @rosemarya | Jun 14, 2021
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@irhon79

I'm not sure. I see the GI RN about every 8 weeks.

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It is good that you are going to be followed with routine visit(s).
When I was diagnosed with liver disease, I saw my GI every 3 months for an examination and to review lab results with me. The labs were scheduled a week prior to my appointment.

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Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor | @rosemarya | Jun 14, 2021
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@donnacarp

Thankfully there is something for everyone . Today I follow Dr Gregor and use the plant based diet. I find it much more suited to me given my preferences and way of life
I do miss weight watchers meeting

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@donnacarp, I used to enjoy those meetings, too. I got to see folks that I knew but were not part of my circle. It was fun to catchup and to encourage each other!
It is good that you have found a plan that meets your preferences and way of life. That does make it easier to maintain.
Do you go it alone? Do you have family that you live with who help or hinder you?

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irhon79 | @irhon79 | Jun 14, 2021
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@rosemarya

It is good that you are going to be followed with routine visit(s).
When I was diagnosed with liver disease, I saw my GI every 3 months for an examination and to review lab results with me. The labs were scheduled a week prior to my appointment.

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Yes, that is what they are doing with me as well.

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