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@dablues In answer to your query about vaccination shedding for the Covid Vaccine. The live virus isn’t used for the serum. So there is no possibility of shedding the vaccine from a vaccinated person to an unvaccinated person. Sadly, it’s another myth that is very damaging to getting the virus under control so that our planet can return to some normalcy.
Here’s an excerpt from a Fact Check article by Reuters in an interview with the Center for Disease Control (the news) explaining why this is not possible. (The full article link is posted below the excerpt)
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“There is no way for a COVID-19 vaccinated person to “shed vaccine,” the Centers for Disease Control’s COVID-19 Clinical Team said in an email responding to Reuters questions.
“COVID-19 vaccines give instructions to teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them. The immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.”
The team also stated the vaccines cannot cause people to shed the COVID-19 virus, echoing all the other experts Reuters spoke to, saying “COVID-19 vaccines do not use the live virus that causes COVID-19 and cannot cause COVID-19. Therefore, people who receive a COVID-19 vaccine cannot shed the virus or the vaccine.”
Many of the false posts attribute the “shedding” of vaccines to a “spike protein” in an apparent misunderstanding of how the vaccines work.
The mRNA vaccines “contain only instructions for making spike protein and are incapable of generating virus particles, so nothing can be shed,” said Dr Daniel Kuritzkes, chief of the infectious diseases division at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, one of the world’s top teaching hospitals and part of Harvard Medical School, in a statement emailed to Reuters.
Likewise, the Johnson & Johnson (also referred to as Janssen) vaccine “is based on a replication-defective adenovirus, which means the adenovirus is incapable of reproducing,” he added.
As Reuters explained here the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines use a chemical messenger, or mRNA, to tell people’s cells to make “make proteins that mimic the outer surface of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19)…without replicating like the actual virus.” Meanwhile, the J&J vaccine uses a “weakened version of a harmless adenovirus to deliver instructions to cells to make coronavirus spike proteins” that also cannot replicate, as Reuters reported here.
Kuritzkes also pointed out that the mRNA vaccines are degraded within 24 to 48 hours. As explained here, that means they disappear from the shot recipients’ bodies within a day or two. Similarly, the J&J vaccine “gets taken up into cells where it is injected, makes spike protein, and is degraded. It cannot disseminate to other tissues or be shed,” Kuritzkes said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19vaccine-reproductivepro-idUSL1N2MG256
PLEASE! talk to your MD...get informed as you're position is dangerous for all.
@dablues I am very careful with the information out there too. I have noticed even the popular evening news networks don’t report the same numbers. The spread is significant so what should we believe? I have also heard vaccinated people will have an effect on unvaccinated people. How can one make a decision for the vaccination when the facts are not fully known? I have not heard proof the vaccines prevent transmission. A physician claims because the vaccines don’t prevent transmission they can create a breeding ground for more virulent mutations. Isn’t herd immunity broken when a vaccinated person gets reinfected with covid? Seems like that is happening in India. Many got vaccinated but their cases are increasing? A physician made a point that herd immunity can never be reached because of all the mutations taking place. He theorized the vaccines could make things worse because mRNA sends a message for our bodies to build a specific spike protein which will become dominant in our immune system making other specific antibodies less abundant to help fight the new variants.
I went to the CDC website in mid April this year. All I saw were messages the vaccines were safe because the main after effects were sore arms, fever, and fatigue. There were no figures posted of how many complaints and their nature. I know many Mayo members claimed they reported their adverse events. It seems many reports are being dismissed saying the vaccines are not the cause for their ailments, all coincidental. Why no mention? Why don’t they post the numbers and be more honest? I would rather have the info with the numbers to decide for myself. It seems odd that all cases are coincidental. There have been reports of people who have died after vaccination but deemed coincidental and not the cause of the vaccines. There was one woman who died after getting a cerebral blood clot. Now there is a warning for that vaccine.
Some Mayo members agree the vaccines cause our immune system to go into overdrive. How do we know what the effects will be in the long run? I have heard a few doctors report possible problems because the vaccines break the blood/ brain barrier. I have seen some effects taking place with vaccinated family. I hope these medical predictions won’t come true. Time will tell.
@dablues- Wow, I'm sorry that you feel this way. Connect tries to give the latest trusted, science-based information that people come here to read and learn about. Are you asking if vaccinated people can still get and transmit Covid? The answer, which has been given many times is yes. Vaccines provide an opportunity to slow transmissions so that the pandemic can be controlled. But this only can happen if you are fully vaccinated. The distinction is important because many people do not realize that vaccines primarily prevent the disease but not necessarily infection.
The primary reason for having a full course of a vaccine is reducing the transmission in the population. To stop the pandemic you have to lower the rate of transmission among large numbers of people and the way to get to that is by vaccinations. There is never a 100% guarantee that all people will be fully protected if they are vaccinated. And the odds of catching the disease do not reduce to zero. But by having the vaccine we protect ourselves and in turn protect our community from its spread. Presently, due to the number of people getting vaccinated the number of people getting Covid and the number of deaths is declining.
If you are adamant about not having the vaccine then please take care to wear a mask, wash your hands, stay a good 6' from everyone who you do not know. You will most likely need to do this for a very, very long time. Fully vaccinated people can mingle in small groups with other fully vaccinated people, not wear masks outside if there is not a crowd. In other words, become more sociable again and help open up the country.
Also, vaccinations reduce the severity of the virus. They have not, by themselves, caused anyone to die. If you chose not to be fully vaccinated (2 doses) then you can spread the disease more easily, taking the chance of killing others, including your family members, and helping to spread variants that are much more lethal and spread much more quickly. You will also be someone who helps prolong this pandemic and perhaps facilitate a much longer period of time that people die and infect each other.
I hope that you will watch Mayo's Dr. Poland's podcasts that fully explain all about the virus, how it spreads and how it can be controlled. He is a top virologist and helps make scientific decisions about vaccines around the world. We are very lucky to have him.
This is his latest podcast: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/podcasts/newsfeed-post/covid-19-vaccine-confidence-and-the-importance-of-that-second-dose/
I really do hope that you will reconsider your decision on the vaccines. Sometimes the news can get confusing and depending on your news sources there can be misinformation. Rest assured that Connect and Mayo Clinic would not be advocating the vaccines if they weren't extremely successful. Connect is all about helping people get healthier and trying to manage or prevent illnesses. We believe that being vaccinated against COVID-19 reduces the odds of getting the virus and spreading it. It does kill people and we don't want that.