New information on (clear) masks, for people with hearing loss

Posted by arrowshooter @arrowshooter, Feb 10, 2021

There is documentation on the effects of masks on sound. This is from a Caption Call web site.
Basically says clear masks aren't good for sound transmission.
Be sure to watch the video.

https://captioncall.com/blog/hearing-loss-are-clear-masks-really-the-answer

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Hearing Loss Support Group.

@ginevraralph

Several members of our hearing loop advocacy group have handed the attached business card to a cashier/receptionist/ticket agent with a mask on and have found people to be immediately empathetic and responsive. Sometimes you have to remind them to look at you when speaking, "Can I SEE you say that again?", but it will be a memorable and educational experience for them and should have some improved outcomes for you! And I agree, letting your seat partner know that you have trouble hearing announcements and asking them if would they please let you know if anything vital has been said will always be met with a good response. Chances are they won't hear it either, the sound systems are so bad!

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Thank you for that card! I saw a card on TSA that just has a blank to fill in disability. The card will be much better to use. I appreciate the suggestions, I'll use them.

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@lacy2

...also wouldnt it be great if at least one of the staff/employees, instead of a mask, perhaps had one of those clear plastic face shields? however I understand they are not quite a good at containing covid germs...however, seeing that some people refuse, choose or cannot wear masks, perhaps the clear face shield is better than nothing? my daughter bought me one to wear in the house for the short time she visits to drop off things and I kept forgetting it was on, so clear, and went to put food in my mouth only to have it hit the shield!!!

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I agree about clear around the mouth. Buying one for myself doesn't help. Would be great if one of a group of employees would wear one. If my pharmacist would it would be terrific. They won't even lower, and get angry to come over and have to write something down. ...

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@sueprichard

I agree with Ginevra's comments, below. I always carry an ample supply of the cards that she shows, attached. When I hand one of those cards to anyone, there is instant compassion and understanding, rather than frustration. I have not flown yet, since Covid, but I would make sure to have a supply and would hand them to every single person I come in contact with...to explain my situation in a simple, understandable way. I have had excellent results, asking people to just step back slightly and pull down their masks. Some people do it without even being asked, once they read my card. I can't say enough about how this has helped me survive these masked times with dignity and comfort.

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Thanks! I'm going to give it a try!

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@julieo4

You've already received the suggestions I would have made. Definitely download a speech to text app on your cell phone and use it. Be sure to practice using it beforehand.

It's very important to be upfront about your hearing loss with the flight attendants, etc. Even with the passengers you may sit with. Let them know you lipread and are handicapped by the mask issue. You want them to understand what you're doing with your phone.

This is why members of HLAA have advocated for years that hearing loop technology and written notices be standard at airports and in other places where one has to be able to understand communication to know what is going on. It's difficult for us even without the masks.

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I am always disappointed with the lack of loop tech in many places. The Getty doesn't even use it except in one auditorium. None of the walking displays have it, so their crummy headphones is the only way. I always fantasize that I knew a Senator very well and that person would push through better tech for all public locations, especially airports.

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I don't really care if clear masks transmit the sound well. I just need to see their mouth-lips. It's instantaneous, and such a relief to see the lips. Like turning a light on.

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@happy2bhear

I agree about clear around the mouth. Buying one for myself doesn't help. Would be great if one of a group of employees would wear one. If my pharmacist would it would be terrific. They won't even lower, and get angry to come over and have to write something down. ...

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We have encouraged a local pharmacy to add a hearing loop at the prescription counseling desk. At the moment it is a portable, but they plan to install one here and at their exterior pick up window. We believe the Plexiglas is here to stay -- and that HIPPA gets violated when they yell out the instructions to patients!

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@happy2bhear

I agree about clear around the mouth. Buying one for myself doesn't help. Would be great if one of a group of employees would wear one. If my pharmacist would it would be terrific. They won't even lower, and get angry to come over and have to write something down. ...

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@happy2behear Gosh not very good customer relations of pharmacist! Should walk in your shoes for a day! J.

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@happy2bhear

Thank you, I have iphone bc it works with my hearing aids, but I will look for speech to text app. I'm so concerned when I delay people but I'll find one and practice. Thanks for telling me about the other suggestions, I will use them all.

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@happytobehere
Don’t be concerned about delaying anyone...we are talking seconds and minutes here to communicate what you need. Think about the difficulty people have when they don’t speak the native language.
Keep your phone handy...You’ll be a pro at this before you leave.
And...keep a smile on your face even though they can’t see it...your eyes will communicate. Be assertive when you have to and ignore impatient people. Regular hearing people tell me they have trouble understanding with masks.

FL Mary

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@happy2bhear

I am always disappointed with the lack of loop tech in many places. The Getty doesn't even use it except in one auditorium. None of the walking displays have it, so their crummy headphones is the only way. I always fantasize that I knew a Senator very well and that person would push through better tech for all public locations, especially airports.

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Hello again. Not sure where 'the Getty' is, but I know that the only reason loop tech gets installed in some places is because the people who know about it advocate for it. That starts with educating others. Sounds easy. I know it's not. But seriously, in areas where 'communication access' is available, someone made it happen. HLAA deserves a lot of credit for that, but many others do too.

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@julieo4

Hello again. Not sure where 'the Getty' is, but I know that the only reason loop tech gets installed in some places is because the people who know about it advocate for it. That starts with educating others. Sounds easy. I know it's not. But seriously, in areas where 'communication access' is available, someone made it happen. HLAA deserves a lot of credit for that, but many others do too.

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I agree. The Getty museum is in LA and they have tons of money. I tried to convince them but to no avail. Then we left LA. Even my audiologist at House Ear Clinic said people weren’t asking for the feature bc so few places have it. It needs more than me.

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