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Melissa, I so understand how tough it is to have not just one but two! Mine was: *MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) (08/07 CULTURE) (09/11 began antibiotic treatment) and then * MYCOBACTERIUM ABSCESSUS SUBSPECIES M. BOLETTI ISOLATES (09/11)

Mayo Clinic at Rochester MN told me that my second mycobacterium diagnosed in 2011 was the most serious of the two (despite it being classified as a "subspecies") and that I really must go on the antibiotics after waiting since being diagnosed in 2007.

But be assured .. after being on four antibiotics for thirty months .. I have had negative cultures since May 2014. I am blessed in finding a doctor at Mayo who specializes in MAI.

I won't kid anyone going through this. I was so sure that all the coughing was caused by the MAI. Ok .. then when I went off the antibiotics in MAY 2011 .. why the horrific coughing?? Then I start researching the Bronchiectasis I also noticed on my medical records but ignored because the MAI was so serious.

Then was told they really don't know .. chicken/egg scenario. MAI/Bronchiectasis. Which comes first .. which leads to the other? Do you develop Bronchiectasis first .. the mucus stays in the bronchial tubes and becomes a breeding ground for the mycobacterium .. OR does the MAI come first and develops into the Bronchiectasis? The doctors do NOT have an answer.

BUT Bronchiectasis did not seem the only answer because my coughing seemed to be SO triggered by certain things .. to me it seemed like dust .. etc. I then saw an Environmental Pulmonologist at Mayo Clinic who pointed out another thing on my medical record: Reactive Airway Disease. WHAT??? Another thing I had just ignored because of the other pressing medical issues? Yep! Well I was just positive I could get a "quick fix" by seeing an Allergist .. getting two dust mite allergy shots per week for 12-16 weeks and get FIXED!! No more coughing!

Nope! After allergy testing I was SHOCKED to find I do NOT have a dust mite allergy. The wonderful allergy doctor explained it thus: If someone hits you on the head .. you are not allergic to being hit on the head .. you are just reacting to being hit on the head so you have to avoid being hit on the head!!

This was greatly dismaying to me as I wanted my "quick fix" but finally it did make sense to me. I would just have to find a way to avoid dust mites because there is no quick fix for me. I will not bore you with the HUGE effort I have taken but I am now using a multitude of products and procedures .. it has helped but has not eliminated the coughing.

So for those of you still dealing with the beginnings of MAI .. I do not want to discourage you .. but I also don't want to pretend the journey is without difficulties. What I will say is this .. when I was diagnosed a wonderful person told me: "If we all put our troubles in a great big circle .. more than likely most of us would take back our own troubles." My husband and I then reminded us that we have not lost a child .. we have not lost a grandchild .. THAT would be a trouble. We will take back our troubles with an attitude of gratitude. I hope you can also. With hugs and well wishes for you all .. I know I have not written in a long time .. my husband is now in Stage 4 cancer .. but doing well so far with a new type of chemo.
Katherine

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I am new to this site and would like to participate in the discussions. Would like to hear from someone, I have the MAC and bronchiectasis also. e345l

I too have mac and bronchiectasis. Diagnosed six years ago. I have not taken the meds but will probably begin them this year. I've gotten very weak, losing a lot of weight. Obviously, I have been resistant to the meds as many people seem to have found them worse than the diseases and, I believe the recurrence rate is within two years. I've manage fairly well thus far but I'm now so low energy I'm open to trying the meds.

Hello flib, welcome! So glad you found our Forum! I would encourage you to read through all the pages of our Forum .. I think you will find lots of information .. encouragement .. and support for your journey ahead. To me reading the pages is just a part of our "Due Diligence" in taking care of this one body we have been given in this lifetime.

If you read through the pages you will find that I was diagnose in 2007 .. did finally take the antibiotic treatment.. AND have been stable since May 2014 .. MORE than two years!!

I have what one internist called "a hyper sensitive system" .. and have a LONG list of NOT really allergic reactions to various drugs .. but really more side effects. So I had a lot of concerns. BUT there is testing to see just what antibiotic will work for just what mycobacterium. THEN because each of our bodies is VERY different .. you will find on this Forum that in the beginning of the treatment you just plain have to experiment with the timing of taking the meds .. and be patient with your body as it adjusts to this new world! AND KNOW that you WILL NOT get all those crazy side effect in the weird insert you get with the meds!

I lost 18% of my body weight during the height of my illness .. but now have a nice weight .. live a VERY nice life .. travel .. have fun. flib, I would really encourage you to "keep the faith" .. keep coming back to our Forum .. do your Due Diligence in educating yourself about ALL your options .. the ins and outs of the journey. Then seek out a Pulmonologist who is currently treating a good number of MAC/MAI patients so they are up on the best treatment for you. AND keep coming back .. we ALL will be here for you! I know this is a tough time for you .. so I am sending you a Big Hug! Katherine

Your fatigue can be partially attributed to the weight loss...is your appetite impacted? Coughing up blood, etc.? If no to both, what's helped me may help - I've increased my calorie intake, take 20K IU's of D3, B Complex, Zinc (15mg), and DHEA (25mg) daily, and get plenty of sleep...helped much! I also have RA so fatigue plays a big part in that condition as well...

TAKE THE MEDS.You will not get better without them, only worse. You're just prolonging your recovery. At least see how they effect you before you make a decision. You'll feel better shortly.

Hello! I too have both of these diseases. No fun!