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MAC and getting the COVID vaccine

MAC & Bronchiectasis | Last Active: Sep 29, 2021 | Replies (163)

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Rita – Please relax – 89 breakthrough cases in MN out of 869,000 fully vaccinated people = .01 % getting sick – that means so far the vaccine is 99.99% effective at preventing infection. Further, only one has been hospitalized and none have died. Remember that the people vaccinated so far are the most at-risk of serious illness or death (over 65) and the most exposed – health care & education workers.

As for ER docs giving injections – it happens all the time. And I, who am an injection wimp, felt only a pinprick from both of my injections when given (though I did later have an immune reaction & sore arm.) A number of people here had no particular symptoms after the Pfizer vaccine – it seems more reacted to Moderna. If you are concerned about whether you are effectively vaccinated, please check back here later – I have turned to someone to learn how to go about getting an antibody test & what to do if you didn't form antibodies.

I have been following this closely because BOTH of my RN daughters in MN have had to tell vaccinated people that they tested positive and we all got very worried when it happened. But both report that the post-vaccine infections are being monitored very carefully, and serious infection is virtually 100% protected by the vaccine.

Also, at 95% the effectiveness of Covid vaccine is far above the seasonal flu shots (40-70% depending on the year) and even the new Shingrix vaccine (80-90%.)

I am in a community now where all the people I regularly associate with are fully vaccinated, and we still are being careful. And masking fully & distancing when we are out in public. This is as much to protect others if we are silently carrying the virus as because we are worried about getting sick. Also, eating out seems like the riskiest activity we normally would do, so we eat during off-peak hours, and only in places that offer outdoor dining or well-distanced indoor dining & have their staffs properly masked & cleaning things.

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@rits & @irene5 Here is the response I received from my go-to RN on the vaccine – she works in the ER and on the TeleMed & Covid lines for a major health care provider, and consults directly with the Covid specialists there. This is how they respond to vaccine questions:

"Some people don't have strong immune response to 1st or 2nd dose or both. Some people have strong response to 1st and not 2nd. Some people have strong response to 2nd and not first. Some people have strong reaction to both. The level of immune reaction that you can feel/see/measure has no impact on the vaccine's ability to protect you. Your body has received the info and build the antibodies.

Being tested for antibodies is not recommended. The test is expensive, and no medical decisions will be made from having it done no matter what the result is so most insurance companies will not pay for it."

That said, the vaccine manufacturers are also monitoring the early recipients to see when the immune response and/or antibodies begin to fade. That will be the key to determining if or when Covid vaccine boosters will be recommended, and whether they will need to "tweak" their formula to cover virus variants.

Based on all of the above, we need to realize that the world is not a perfect place, there is no perfect vaccine, nor any permanent preventative measure against all illness, disease and risk. I wear my seat belt because it reduces my risk of severe injury or death in a car accident, I clean, store & cook my food properly to reduce the risk of food-borne illness, I exercise to keep my body as strong as possible, I take prescribed meds to reduce the risk of my diseases progressing, I get preventative health screenings to reduce my risk of dying from cancer, and I get vaccines to reduce my risk of severe illness or death from infections. Is my life 100% risk free? No, but I still plan to live well & enjoy it.