@jphnbishop@ I just purchased Conolidine! I figured, what the hell. I have tried so many things, wasted so much money, that it is nuts. But any kind of pain relief is worth every penny. If Kratom were not addictive, I would just stay on it. But you cannot take it daily. So I have to keep on plugging away......what we all go through. We know more than our doctors, for sure. LoriRenee