@lioness ...thanks, he knows the price to pay; also had bowel cancer 2014. has made his decision.... never complains like me tho... the day is turning sour so got my heating pad and going to have a nap and listen to a tape... i have stacks of papers to file but just never get around to it, although worked in an office all my life.... ! feel for those in USA who lost their homes in Tornadoes..... j.