@jakedduck1 I am so sorry you do not enjoy coffee. I think perhaps you are the wrong nationality. Some of my best memories are of sitting on my Oma's knee and dunking my kuchen, cookie or donut in my heavily laced sugar and cream coffee (made frontier/cowboy style). It was a godsend for me when I became diabetic. It was available at every gathering and virtually carb and calorie free after I dropped the cream and sugar. I still drink it all day every day.