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Diet for diabetic and low oxalate requirements: Suggestions welcome

Posted by jbrj04 @jbrj04, Feb 22, 2019

Seeking information on how to develop and maintain a diabetic diet with the restrictions of a low oxalate diet. Foods allowed seem to be in opposition to one another. Would appreciate suggestions, experiences, and how needs of both diets can be combined.
Thank you, jbrj04

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Retired Teacher | @retiredteacher | Jan 31, 2020
In reply to @denny2019 "Hello Carol. I have taken your advice & have found a diabetes dietitian who will guide..." + (show)
@denny2019

Hello Carol. I have taken your advice & have found a diabetes dietitian who will guide me along. Index cards are great to use and i plan on making a month long daily meal plan. I know it's ambitious, but will be worth it. Thanks very much.
Dennis

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@denny2019 I am so glad you found a dietitian who can help. This is a tough problem to try to figure out what to eat when the diets are at odds. I am glad you found someone who can guide you and work with you to get a meal plan in place so that you don't have to stop and check everything. To have a month of meals is ambitious, but you will be happy when you've worked it out once it is completed. Also @jbrj04 and @ denise1892 have you tried a dietician? It sounds as if this may be the best step to deal with the conflicting diets.
Carol

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savagegirl2020 | @savagegirl2020 | Feb 5, 2020

Hi I follow Trim Healthy Mama which has been successful for a lot of people who are type 1 and 2; and can be easily modified for any additional nutritional needs.

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popolopo | @popolopo | Mar 25, 2020

I have cut back on oxylates but not much difference yet.

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mary760 | @mary760 | Apr 20, 2021
In reply to @retiredteacher "@jbrj04 I'm so glad to hear from you. I know we all search for the definitive..." + (show)
@retiredteacher

@jbrj04 I'm so glad to hear from you. I know we all search for the definitive answer when we're dealing with seemingly opposing forces. I am not familiar with the Fuhrman book; it seems that all these doctors and wannabe doctors and experts have books that will give all the answers. I do better checking the internet, especially the Mayo site and then seeing what my endocrinologist says too. I don't eat meats often; I prefer veggies. But my meat of choice is boneless, skinless chicken breasts or turkey breasts. I have a number of ways I prepare this meat that is very tasty. I do not digest red meat well, so I limit it to maybe once a week (3 oz.) and I also limit pork. I can do without meat, but protein is necessary for a healthy diet. Sometimes I get protein from eggs; those are easy to digest for me. Many of the veggies I saw on oxalate lists of foods to eat are also on the good foods for diabetes. It just takes some time to get it all sorted. I went to the oxalate list and checked my diabetes cards. If the veggies or fruit or whatever I was looking for was allowable in both instances. I wrote DO. That lets me know it's okay for both areas. If not, the card gets a D for diabetes or an O for oxalates. It takes time and research, but once you have your cards or lists, you can really prepare good food, and you'll find it's not so frustrating. I'm sure you can do this, and it will work---just check the numbers. I've been doing this for almost three years, and it certainly makes preparing meals so much easier. It helps my diabetes and my kidneys. Have you talked with a dietician? They can help you plan meals that satisfy both conditions. I'd like to know if you try it, and if you do, I will be happy that it works for you.
Carol

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hello all...i am new to this site and am trying to coordinate a diabetic type 2, low oxalate and lo fat/pancreatitis diet for my husband...i feel so overwhelmed! i am making grids and lists etc. and am trying to connect with a dietician. i am reading a lot on the internet, and scanning tables and endless lists of what's ok and how to match it all up so i can do some meal planning, but often cannot get specific answers. i have worked the lo oxalate for a while now, but a wrench has been thrown into it due to the 2 new dx,and having to stop our routine of handling his non-making of citric acid...so now the oxalates issue is even larger. any help is so appreciated - thank you! mary

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linh | @linh | Jul 24, 2021
In reply to @usdiwoya "This has recently become a challenge for me as well. Kidney stones and NIDDM.... And because..." + (show)
@usdiwoya

This has recently become a challenge for me as well. Kidney stones and NIDDM.... And because I have had Low Thyroid issues for years, the changes have caused my Thyroid to become even more sensitive, thus causing Cardiac palpatations.... if it isn't one issue, it's another!! Finding a Good balance is my new normal and trying to do that is stressful to say the least.

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Thank you for articulating so well what I have been going through. You have lifted my spirits greatly knowing now I’m not alone.

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linh | @linh | Jul 24, 2021
In reply to @retiredteacher "@jbrj04 I'm so glad to hear from you. I know we all search for the definitive..." + (show)
@retiredteacher

@jbrj04 I'm so glad to hear from you. I know we all search for the definitive answer when we're dealing with seemingly opposing forces. I am not familiar with the Fuhrman book; it seems that all these doctors and wannabe doctors and experts have books that will give all the answers. I do better checking the internet, especially the Mayo site and then seeing what my endocrinologist says too. I don't eat meats often; I prefer veggies. But my meat of choice is boneless, skinless chicken breasts or turkey breasts. I have a number of ways I prepare this meat that is very tasty. I do not digest red meat well, so I limit it to maybe once a week (3 oz.) and I also limit pork. I can do without meat, but protein is necessary for a healthy diet. Sometimes I get protein from eggs; those are easy to digest for me. Many of the veggies I saw on oxalate lists of foods to eat are also on the good foods for diabetes. It just takes some time to get it all sorted. I went to the oxalate list and checked my diabetes cards. If the veggies or fruit or whatever I was looking for was allowable in both instances. I wrote DO. That lets me know it's okay for both areas. If not, the card gets a D for diabetes or an O for oxalates. It takes time and research, but once you have your cards or lists, you can really prepare good food, and you'll find it's not so frustrating. I'm sure you can do this, and it will work---just check the numbers. I've been doing this for almost three years, and it certainly makes preparing meals so much easier. It helps my diabetes and my kidneys. Have you talked with a dietician? They can help you plan meals that satisfy both conditions. I'd like to know if you try it, and if you do, I will be happy that it works for you.
Carol

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Thank you for such down to earth advice & sharing your card formula. It sounds thankfully like a doable way to tackle this daunting task. Your guidance is much appreciated.

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