@becsbuddy Would you be able to share some of your son's work? I'd love to see it. I love lace, and seeing something that looks like lace is neat. I recently got interested in Irish crochet lace and bought some pieces. The motifs have all kinds of flowers and plants that are made individually, and then those are crocheted together into a shape to make a collar or even a dress. The Irish rose is a common 3 dimensional motif. If I was born a hundred years ago, I'd probably be in a circle of women doing that and making beautiful clothing.