@lauraleaisme Hi Welcome to this site you can get alot of good info here Im a retired nurse and have alot of back problems from L2fracture thay has given me both bowel and bladder ,and nerve problems ,bulging disc fused L5S1 plus fi bromyalgis I do alot of naturel stuff to help me Haveyou tried water Aerobics its easier on your joints,ice can give you comfort as well as a hot shower moist heating pad ,I recently started CBD cream and rub on trigger points for my fibromyalgia Epsom salts wring out a washcloth and apply to muscles ,vinegar in water does same for muscles Id like to invite Gailb to gi ve you her experiences These are just some of things that help me I am on 1TrAmadol 50 mg or 2if needed.