@gfisher100 Good morning. I have been using some version of topical ointment with CBD oil for several years. Some work better than others. The only type that is very messy is anything with coconut oil. I am experimenting right now with a 3:1 THC to CBD. It is working very well on hands, wrists, and arms. I also use it on my Myofascial knee problem. I was doubtful at first because of the high concentration of THC. My patient counselor said that it has been delivering good results. Any of the medical marijuana products work better than the lidocaine compounds, for me.