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@radeles

Hi
A little over 2 years ago I began having the symptoms you described. The adrenaline rushes woke me every morning around 4am and the intensity of feelings from this began to grow over the next few hours until I was suicidal. This continued until mid afternoon then began to subside until my mental/emotional settled and I felt normal again, although exhausted. No longer suicidal, not even particularly depressed or anxious. Then I’d go to bed and it’d happen all over again. Groundhog Day! I dreaded going to bed but was so tired I had to. Only for the cycle to begin again. 2 months went by and I’d tried all the mindfulness and meditation to calm me, was seeing a psychologist but my body was telling me this was physiological rather than mental/emotional. The anxiety and depression were the result of the physical stuff rather than the other way around. Eventually I heard from someone about MTHFR gene mutations that created similar symptoms so saw a GP who specialised in that and Pyrroles Disorder. She ordered the test for Pyrroles and bloodwork to identify high levels of ‘free’ copper based on my history and current symptoms. She said I was textbook for Pyrroles and directed me to online resources to better understand it. She’d studied the condition at The Walsh Institute founded by Dr William Walsh.
She directed me to have the tests asap then after the tests to begin taking high doses of activated B6, magnesium and zinc. Within a week of taking this I began feeling better. We continued tweaking the supplements and adding some others as the main issue is that I undermethylate and have problems detoxing metals from my system. The excess unusable copper in my body (which has a specific way of testing for it) causes the electrically charged feeling in my body. I’ve realised I’ve recently been consuming lots of nuts and seeds high in copper.
The reason for finding your post is that I googled ‘adrenaline rushes in the morning’ as I’ve began having them again. However, it’s also been months since I took the supplements I’m supposed to. So I basically know why I’m having symptoms again but felt the need to do some research just in case it could be something else. After reading your post I realised it’s probably not something else! I’ve also recently been attempting to detox with ‘clean eating’. As my body releases toxins I have issues with clearing them from my system without correcting the pathways that are dysfunctional. So I’m getting back on the supplements ASAP and wanted to write about it here in case it’s helpful for you. I’m in Australia btw and the conditions I mentioned aren’t recognised by the general medical profession here. The Walsh Institute is in the US but several doctors here are getting the training as the markers for these conditions make sense to them. Most of them are inundated with more patients than they can handle who are being treated successfully with the right supplements to correct biochemistry. It’s a very fine balance that needs to be supported by blood tests to confirm what’s working and what isn’t. I’d say the first step is looking at the information on the Walsh Institute website then finding a practitioner who can test and treat you. Also find Pyrroles Disorder and/or MTHFR support groups on social media for more information.
Best of luck!

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@radeles Wow! I think I may have the pyrolysis condition you describe. I want to get tested but have some concern about going off my supplements. I routinely take 30 mg Cu every other day and 175 mg B6, because general metabolic testing showed that I am a very poor methylator. On this I have felt fairly well, but any extra stress will set off the adrenal rushes and it will take a lot of resting up to get back to “normal”.