@rosemarya. To say I'm surprised at what is or is not included in a low-phosphorous diet is to put it mildly! No one said word one to me about diet, not even my nephrologist. It's going to be a bit of a problem to find substitutes for some of these items, particularly milk and meat, but was already planning to see a dietitian. Now at least I'll have some idea of what my problems are. Bit difficult to substitute easily with product availability limited where I live. If anyone has suggested convenience food products that would work, I'd love to know about them. Cooking for me is somewhat of a problem and we do depend on convenience and/or restaurant foods to help! BTW, long before this conversation, I've been complaining about "fluids" added to our local fresh meat products. Butcher's tell me it's to enable a longer shelf life, but on a purely esthetic and taste level, I find these additions to be unacceptable.