Esophagus keeps restricting

Posted by shaymar @shaymar, Jun 3, 2024

Hello everyone,
I had an esophagectomy, followed by a major complication of a leak, in July 2023. This past April I had 3 procedures, 3 weeks in a row, to expand my esophagus with a balloon because it had constricted and I could not swallow food. Then last Tuesday I had another procedure because the Sunday before i couldn’t swallow food or water and I kept throwing up. Tomorrow I’m having my 5th procedure. Has anyone else had this experience after an esophagectomy? Is there any other way to keep the esophagus open without these procedures which are repeated assaults on my body?

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I'll let you know. I need a 60 Fr for sure. that's what I get dilated up to every 10-14 days. I'm going to try to find someone local. If not, I'll fly to phoenix. Really appreciate your response.

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Your GI doctor who dilates you should be able to help in finding someone who can do the training. I don’t know where you are located but in the Midwest there is the Cleveland Clinic, Northwestern in Chicago and I believe IU Health in Indianapolis does it also. I chose Mayo because my GI doctor knew the doctors there and I was able to get in quickly. I also snowbird there in the winter so it was no problem for me to go there. You are lucky that you can be stretched to 60FR. I don’t know anyone who can do that after surgery. My best was 54 and it wouldn’t stay there long. 48 works well. I can eat pretty much anything I want and I have gained weight back after starting this. Keep in touch on your progress.

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I had the same experience after my surgery. About a month after surgery my esophagus closed up at the junction where it was attached to my redesigned stomach. Balloon dilation solved it but didn't last long. I started to require balloon dilations every two weeks, and this went on for a close to two years. The GI doc then put a stent in, which at first was very uncomfortable, and painful. I got used to it, and over the next year and a half I had several stents placed, as they tend to migrate into the stomach when the sutures break. I talked to a fellow EC patient who was doing self dilation of the esophagus. Sounded interesting so I discussed my GI Doc, who was very familiar with the procedure, but could not provide the dilator, or the training required at the hospital he was associated with. He put me in touch with a doctor at the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix. I then set up an appointment at Mayo, and the doctor removed my stent one day, and trained me on self dilation the next. That was in November of 2023, and I have been performing self dilation every day since. It has been a life changer for me, and is not as "bad" as it sounds. It takes approx. a minute a day to do. I will be doing it for the rest of my life, but it is much better than the alternative. If you want additional information, please let me know. Good Luck!!!

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@v132077 I hope you see this! I’m very interested in learning more on the self stretching. I just had another stretch 2 weeks ago, and choking happened again just a bit ago!

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Let me know how I can help. Would be honored to do so. Have you discussed self dilation with your GI doctor?? If not I can put you in touch with the Doctor who helped me get started. He is with Mayo in Phoenix.

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I'm going Thursday for my fifth dilation, all under anesthesia. I'm in Huntsville, AL and my GE doc here stretches to 20mm, which equivalent, I understand, to 60 FR. I had my last at MD Anderson, in Houston, where I was treated, only with chemo radiation. I was dilated, among other things, on 8/5/'26. He only dilated to 18mm, because we were flying in two days. I started feeling a little tighter about a month ago, although I can still eat about what I want. My GE here is pretty young. We mentioned DIY, actually I did as a joke, in the OR just before the last one. All in the OR laughed and the doctor said "some people do." If it keeps on at this pace, I'll certainly be interested in it. Mine was squamous, in the middle third, and originally staged as advanced III (confined to esophagus, no hot regional or distant nodes) and later lowered to II, it was circumferential of my esophagus, so that they couldn't even get a wire down. I finished treatment on 5/15/'25 and am so far NED. Self-dilation is very interesting to me...

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I'm going Thursday for my fifth dilation, all under anesthesia. I'm in Huntsville, AL and my GE doc here stretches to 20mm, which equivalent, I understand, to 60 FR. I had my last at MD Anderson, in Houston, where I was treated, only with chemo radiation. I was dilated, among other things, on 8/5/'26. He only dilated to 18mm, because we were flying in two days. I started feeling a little tighter about a month ago, although I can still eat about what I want. My GE here is pretty young. We mentioned DIY, actually I did as a joke, in the OR just before the last one. All in the OR laughed and the doctor said "some people do." If it keeps on at this pace, I'll certainly be interested in it. Mine was squamous, in the middle third, and originally staged as advanced III (confined to esophagus, no hot regional or distant nodes) and later lowered to II, it was circumferential of my esophagus, so that they couldn't even get a wire down. I finished treatment on 5/15/'25 and am so far NED. Self-dilation is very interesting to me...

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@earle
So it has been over 2 months since your last dilation. That is a good thing. I had to have one every week to keep the plumbing open. You would be a good candidate for the self dilation and probably get by doing it once a week or even less frequently and eventually stop. Another thing that has worked for other people (I wasn’t a good candidate for this) is the use of Botox to help keep things open. It is injected after the dilation and “firms” things up to help out. Discuss that with your GI doc and get his opinion.

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I don't see my earlier reply, but that's helpful information and I intend to pursue it with my GE doc...

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Profile picture for mrgvw @mrgvw

Many questions to begin working on your esophageal riddle. First off... I too had some issues. I was a stage 3 adenocarcinoma, lower third (T3N1M0). Diagnosed in March 2020, J tube installed week after dx, then CROSS protocol, esophagectomy July 2020. But weight loss kept coming (I was tight at the anastomosis, 5mm, even after 6 months post-op). I was at 220 lbs before my EC came along, hit my low of 160 lbs at 6 months post-op. But then I had 4 stretches over 4 months... back to 16 mm. Not perfect... but close enough. I quickly put weight back on.... 20 lbs in 2 months.

So... I need to know your particulars like I just stated about myself. But here's what I think.

Firstly, esophageal strictures have many causes. For us esophagectomy patients (not all of us make it to surgery)... this is the obvious culprit as this anastomosis scar tissue can sure limit food passage, cause spasms, cause a shelf, etc. And this anastomosis stricture does not loosen up over time... it'll stay this way forever! But... it is usually fixable with some stretches, over time. Our GI doc just needs to proceed with caution, not cause a perforation, bring us along slowly but surely. But the key here is how soon did your stretches start? I find that those who get stretched early (say just a month post-op)... their stretches don't hold as long (their anastomosis scar tissue has not yet firmed up), and they need to be stretched much more often. But the need for dilations is hit or miss... maybe 50/50... some of us post-op never need a single stretch.

Secondly, our neoadjuvant treatments (especially radiation) can cause damage and strictures within the remaining original esophagus. Also, our treatments may alter the viability (quality) of our esophageal tissue... which our thoracic surgeons are left to work with as they piece us back together.

Ok... so we're all a bit behind the 8-ball post-op... and getting digestion going again is already daunting! This takes a good 2 years.

But vomiting... from all I've seen, although this can come from anastomosis issues, it mostly comes from further down... the pylorus... where our food leaves our new stomaphagus and enters the top of the intestines (duodenum). I've seen many patients find relief once this area was stretched, or injected with botox, or even given a few snips via endoscopy. Once motility is improved, vomiting stops.

Anyways... you wanna chat (since I've talked to hundreds of EC patients)... just private message me. Be well,

Gary

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@mrgvw
Can someone perform self-dilation if they have had chemo and radiation for a distal esophageal mass that was 5.8x4.0x4.4cm to unable to detect to now having moderate, circumferential erosive esophagitis and a stricture that was originally 5 mm but was recently stretched to 10 mm but only lasts a few days until having to reply only on smoothies and liquids. Have had three dilations performed so far. Pulled out my own J-tube finally a couple months ago. Couldn’t take it anymore. With the constant leaking.

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@mrgvw
Can someone perform self-dilation if they have had chemo and radiation for a distal esophageal mass that was 5.8x4.0x4.4cm to unable to detect to now having moderate, circumferential erosive esophagitis and a stricture that was originally 5 mm but was recently stretched to 10 mm but only lasts a few days until having to reply only on smoothies and liquids. Have had three dilations performed so far. Pulled out my own J-tube finally a couple months ago. Couldn’t take it anymore. With the constant leaking.

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@lovelexia92 You really need to get in touch with your healthcare provider. Here's a link with some info on your situation...
https://www.droracle.ai/articles/350942/what-are-the-management-options-for-a-leaking-jejunal

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I'm going Thursday for my fifth dilation, all under anesthesia. I'm in Huntsville, AL and my GE doc here stretches to 20mm, which equivalent, I understand, to 60 FR. I had my last at MD Anderson, in Houston, where I was treated, only with chemo radiation. I was dilated, among other things, on 8/5/'26. He only dilated to 18mm, because we were flying in two days. I started feeling a little tighter about a month ago, although I can still eat about what I want. My GE here is pretty young. We mentioned DIY, actually I did as a joke, in the OR just before the last one. All in the OR laughed and the doctor said "some people do." If it keeps on at this pace, I'll certainly be interested in it. Mine was squamous, in the middle third, and originally staged as advanced III (confined to esophagus, no hot regional or distant nodes) and later lowered to II, it was circumferential of my esophagus, so that they couldn't even get a wire down. I finished treatment on 5/15/'25 and am so far NED. Self-dilation is very interesting to me...

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@earle It is interesting to find another person that had a squamous ( mine was in middle third too) that is doing ok with only chemorad. I refused the surgery and am NED for 7 years now. The effects of radiation to the chest have not gone away as you so well know but I am grateful that my cancer was found d early stage. I had upper endoscopy every 3 then every 6 months then every 1 yr now am up to 2 years. Hang in there!

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@earle It is interesting to find another person that had a squamous ( mine was in middle third too) that is doing ok with only chemorad. I refused the surgery and am NED for 7 years now. The effects of radiation to the chest have not gone away as you so well know but I am grateful that my cancer was found d early stage. I had upper endoscopy every 3 then every 6 months then every 1 yr now am up to 2 years. Hang in there!

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@esowarrior Thanks! The 7 years part is very encouraging. Mine was confined to the esophagus, with no regional or distant nodes positive. There was one "suspicious" node which turned out negative. They (MD Anderson) then restaged me to II, instead of III. I had proton, which is a little kinder to surrounding tissue, but, in addition to the scar tissue issue, I have a mild mitral murmur, which my cardiologist said was of no consequence. As I've posted before, I'm now 17 months NED. I declined surgery because of age (87 in two months) and my now deceased ex-wife also had esophageal cancer (hers was adeno at the junction) and I watched her having the post-surgery side effects. Also, the studies seemed to indicate not a lot of difference in OS between surgery and chemoradiation alone. I have had one additional incident. I formed a very small nodule (.8mm) in my upper left lung lobe, in a spot which couldn't be biopsied. All the oncologists agreed it wasn't metastasis, but that it needed treatment. So I had SBRT (very intense, extremely narrow beam radiation) for five sessions and it responded, leaving a small amount of scar tissue. Unfortunately, I developed pneumonitis, as about 40% do, but that's another story...

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