Seeking dietary advice for ileostomy as bowels and leakage worsen
Here here. I feel a strong sense of Deja vu having been dismissed as a nervous young woman 70 years ago by the expert specialists.
Today I do have a good gastroenterologist, a lady, but I have yet to find comprehensive dietary advice or good clinical hands on info for ileostomy appliances, now that my bowel movements and leakage issues have worsened. I have type 2 diabetes, early fatty liver (non alcohol kind), mild kidney disease and am prone to gout.
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@soohart Welcome to Connect! It is concerning when you say you haven't had "good clinical hands on info for ileostomy appliances". Have you seen a WOCN lately?
I know when I first had my ileostomy in the 1980s, there was very little thought given to dietary guidelines. I was given a list and sent on my way. It is better now, and I think you can probably find dietitians who knows something about both ileostomys and diabetes. I would encourage you to start a thread in the Ostomy group, I'm sure you are not the only one with both an ileostomy and diabetes.
We have a monthly support video meeting with one of the Mayo Clinic WOCNs. It is this Tuesday, September 1st, as a matter of fact.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/comment/1655304/
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1 Reaction@susanf8 my experience with a wound care nurse was that she was not an ostomy care person except possibly in the hospital setting after surgery. I am less concerned about the diabetes as you say because so many people have it. I am more concerned with gout triggers snd the liver issues. I am in search of a dietician and may have found one so here is hoping. Glad to have the feedback.
@soohart I've worked with a number of different WOCNs when I lived in Arizona. It took me about 2 years to find an appliance that worked well for me. I probably worked with five(?) different people.
How long ago was your experience with a WOCN? Did you work with more than one?
What sorts of problems are you having with your current appliance, and have you tried anything new since you started having problems?
@susanf8 this is useful to know. I’ve only worked with one nurse so far as that was the name given by my doctor. I have worked over the phone with a few people tied to the vendors to see whether their products would work. Basically I’ve been trying various appliances for nearly three years, think I have found something only to find after a few weeks that it is not so secure. I’ll just keep trying.
@susanf8 thank you. I have not found the path to ostomy wound nurses yet, so will keep asking. Unfortunately I have medical appointments on the first so will miss that online resource but will be using the Mayo Clinic groups now that I have found them.
@soohart there is a search option on the WOCN site ( I've had the best success by including my whole state). You can try calling GI offices or Colorectal surgeon offices.
https://findanurse.wocn.org/
The UOAA has a telemed nurse option as well as other options (including other telemed services) listed.
https://www.ostomy.org/find-an-ostomy-nurse/
@soohart that's a very familiar story to mine. Some of the things suggested worked, a lot didn't. It's very trial and error. Have you tried Eakins Seal?
@susanf8 Eakins seal has been a tremendous help to me. I dread to think how much worse off I would’ve without it.
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1 Reaction@susanf8 thank you for the links!
@soohart and @susanf8, I moved your discussion about ileostomy and dietary questions to its own discussion in the Ostomy support group here:
- Ostomy & J-Pouch https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/ostomy/
Thanks for suggesting the move @susanf8 so @soohart can get additional feedback from others as well.