At 81, high PSA: I don't think I want a prostate biopsy

Posted by vtduckman1 @vtduckman1, Jan 8, 2025

age 81 high PSA should I have a prostate biopsy l don’t think I won’t one

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@readandlearn

You might feel differently if you had been in constant pain for the last 20 months. I have had every ADT side effect you can think of, and the pain was so bad that I could not even stand to touch parts of my body like my head.

I am now getting TRT at age 84, which has helped immensely but I wonder how much damage has been done to my bones, muscles, and heart.

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@pesquallie "You might feel differently if you had been in constant pain for the last 20 months."

I was talking about pain from being stuck with a needle, or from some surgical procedure. I'm sure there are other causes of pain that are difficult to live with.

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I did not want one either. I was only 59. The day before I sat with friends watching a Notre Dame basketball game. The whole time I was whistling in the dark. The next day my wife held my hand and knelt down next to the exam room table. Honestly, it was not that bad. I had transrectal with no complications.

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@tattodice Blessings on the good news. My biopsy is on the 31st at Mayo

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@14810eshimmering
You are so reasonable about vigilance. I'd be wanting the relief of knowing, one way or the other. Active surveillance would drive me a little crazy. I hope the score goes way lower.

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@gently opt for a psma pet scan

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damuaj, tissue evidence of prostate cancer is required for "necessity" of PSMA with original Medicare in the US.
Cash cost for pylarify alone is 3,000 to 5,000$, with total for the test running $4,500 to 21,000 for the scan depending upon whether you have the PSMA /PET at a hospital or and independent radiology lab.
Some very aggressive cancers grow at low or normal PSA levels.
Otherwise, sure.

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@14810eshimmering
Having to have a biopsy is not something anyone wants to have. But in my opinion and what I did was to have it done when I was 76.

I insisted on the transperineally with anesthesia. I don't remember a thing and had no discomfort afterward. Would not know I even had the biopsy if did not know I did.

By having the biopsy we caught the P.C. early. When I had it done my PSA was only 3.75. My treatment plan from two major medical institutions (Mayo and UHFPTI) was radiation with no hormone treatments.

The biopsy will help diagnose why your PSA is so high and getting a treatment play to help prevent if from getting worse regardless of being prostate irritation or P.C.

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@jc76 your biopsy description is identical to mind 4 years ago. I m 77 now.

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I am younger, was on active surveillance for 6 years and wanted to take some kind of action. I had the transrectal fusion biopsy, which matched a real time ultrasound image with the MRI taken prior to the procedure. I had some discomfort following it for a few days, which I did not have with the usual biopsy.
I also had the PET Scan, which was very helpful in identifying any masses outside of the gland. My urologist said that the biopsy is #1 in ranking, MRI is second best or #2, and PSA is #3.

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@jc76 your biopsy description is identical to mind 4 years ago. I m 77 now.

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@ecurb
I hope we, in fact all, have a continued success with out treatments.

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Keep eating mushrooms and green tea like I do, plus 1/2 hour/day gym workouts. My 37 yr. Old daughter still can’t beat me in arm wrestling. lol.

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An MRI is definitely becoming more common before a biopsy.

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@jeffmarc that’s my thinking also. A biopsy without an mri is mostly useless. They did that with me around 10 years ago. They sample kind of I call Willy nilly. Then told me we didn’t find cancer but that doesn’t mean you don’t have cancer. PSA was rising a little every year. Then no blood test for a couple years. Dr was doing my yearly bloodwork. I said don’t you think a PSA is in order. She said ok we will add that. Came back 6.7. MRI then prostatectomy in March 2026. Probably had cancer working for 8 years.

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I think the standard of care now a days if you have a high PSA and/or abnormal DRE,
1st) MRI, if MRI shows lesion(s) then,
2nd) Biopsy,
3rd) PSMA.
These tests should give the doctor & patient a good idea of their prostate cancer.
Of course you also have genomic tests that can be done for a more in depth look at how aggressive the cancer is and help make treatment decisions like if ADT would help, etc, etc

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