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Switched from Tacrolimus to Belatacept

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@caretakermom

Hi Caretakermom;

Sorry no answers and I just feel like we are just getting the runaround. We met with my wife's Nephrologist (at Mayo Phx) and she downplayed Belatacept (not a no, but) and suggested that she would be going to "The Committee" today 8/13 for a discussion on a possible switch of anti-rejection drugs but she was leaning toward Everolimus (as it has anti-cancer properties - that has been another struggle we face in addition to the transplant). Our read on that is not so favorable as (at least according to AI - which has been wrong a lot on this journey) almost 40% of people switching to Everolimus end up changing again 6 mths to a year) due primarily to proteinuria but high blood pressure and edema are also serious issues.

I did find a good study out of Japan on Belatacept transition (on NIH website - still looking for the one from Dr. Hamash - they could not find it in the Mayo library Tuesday) I will email him and see if there is a draft or something we can "acquire". The bad news was the study did not find any change in blood pressure (as AI has been noting) but did find something like 5% gfr improvement.

Not sure where we can go from here but her sodium s is pretty low again sub 125 (it may be SIAHD but Mayo is not giving a firm diagnosis) and every time they add fluid restrictions her labs really go downhill (high Tacrolimus, potassium, ... - guess what kidneys love water).

My theory is we are on Pickett's charge with Tacrolimus. If we are part of the 40% who live we will be captured and live in prison, (dialysis, in the unlikely event she will even try it - for the rest of her life), so why not change course (you can't be afraid of 5 or even 10% transition risk at this point)? Not very good options. We can't understand why she wasn't transitioned off Tacrolimus long ago but I guess we were not aggressive enough for change. Now with 30% scaring there are no attractive options.

Not sure why we have such divergent ideas from the Drs. Transition risk is real, cancer recurrence risk is real but if you have a stroke, heart attack, or further degrade gfr with more Tacrolimus scaring the situation just looks worse every day. Perhaps they just feel it's a no win situation, so best do nothing (and don't waste their time or resources)? I am very sad to admit it but we have heard more than once from Mayo Nephrologists that we are 8 years into a 10 year (live kidney transplant life) so what do you expect? I know I am getting to cynical here but after the last 6 months of no changes, no progress, no answers (like almost everything in the Transplant world) it is rough on everyone.

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@geomusser

It's a good thing that your wife's nephrologist did not outright reject the option to do Bela. Did she go over what are the criteria are to use Bela? Is this the same nephrologist you wife has had since transplant? We are from out-of-state so we have a home/local nephrologist who is working with Mayo to resolve my husband's issue with Everolimus(we think it's the drug that's causing his anemia). You are fortunate to be able to meet directly with the transplant nephrologist! We were told after 3 years post transplant, we're pretty much "on our own" - we do not have anymore follow-ups with Mayo Az.
With regards to Everolimus, the most common side affects are anemia, hyperlipidemia, mouth sores, edema, and proteinuria. I have not heard that high blood pressure is one of its side effects. My husband had mild edema - he can live with that but he cannot live with the anemia, which in his case is bordering on severe if left unchecked. So at the moment, he has been told by his home nephrologist to pause the Everolimus and take the dreaded prednisone instead. We are waiting for my husband to recover from the anemia before any changes be made to his long-term transplant medication.

@geomusser This is the link I saw, but could not find a date or results. Study may be ongoing.
https://www.mayo.edu/research/clinical-trials/cls-20318351
I am so sorry you are going through this.