Decision time SBRT, IMRT or surgery
diagnosed 1 1/2 months ago biopsy shows grade group 3 with 8 of the 15 being positive and Gleason of 7. I have been offered SBRT, IMRT, and surgery. I am leaning toward the SBRT. I am just very confused with all the information I have read about the short and long term side effects. I also have an abdominal aortic aneurysm that last measured was not very large and mild COPD and am 69 years old in decent health otherwise.
I need to go forward with this decision just looking for real life experience with all 3 choices.
Thanks in advance
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@harvey33 The RO’s don’t really know insurance - especially with all the plans out there and worse, who administers them; there are different tiers as well…a nightmare indeed.
Focal therapy really requires very careful consideration by the team. It sounds like it would LESS involved, but it is not.
Where the lesion is, how big it is, what critical structures it’s close to - all these play into WHICH focal treatment might be best.
The second biopsy would probably be a larger sampling of the gland to be sure that you have no disease elsewhere ( or more). It would be foolish to focally treat the area(s) found on the first biopsy without treating the others.
Phil
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I understand about how screwed up our medical system is. My main point is I hate the lack of communication that I’m receiving. I also totally understand the 2nd biopsy but it appears to put the cart before the horse if my insurance plan isn’t going to cover anyway.
@harvey33 But whether your insurance company approves it or not, shouldn’t it be done?
Not trying to spend your hard earned $$, but my insurance company refused an Axumin scan in 2019, even after two challenges by my RO.
I shelled out $7600 because that test was the only one which could help me decide on treatment: surgery vs radiation.
In your case, radiation vs focal; maybe they can tell you what it would cost (in toto!) to help to decide. Best,
Phil
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I am just the friend and I am so confused. Just last night with a phone call from Stephen I have learned that that the radiation treatments are going to be 28 treatments with photon radiation instead of proton. I apologize I am still trying to learn all the acronym’s. He is not the best eater and the only exercise he does is walk. I am that friend that feels like that game show “phone a friend” he still is not ready to share and tell people except his sister which has gone with him to a couple of appointments.
He has more bloodwork tomorrow morning and treatments start next Monday.
@miggie
A lot of radiation oncologist will tell you that there is not a big difference between photon and proton results when you are talking about prostate cancer treatment.
A Mayo RO Who was at one of the monthly meetings Mayo has every month says he’s only used proton four times in all the time they’ve had the machine.
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There is a machine in KC because what I have read not everyone has one of these machines. Even if the Dr recommends it and the insurance company can still kick it. It is sad to say that it seems are lives are in the hands of insurance companies instead of Dr’s. If they would only let Dr’s treat their patients.
There is one major difference with the proton therapy and that is the radiation does not exit the body and stops at the target. But with most of the radiation machines now a days they are very accurate within a few millimeters. It's still a good idea to get a rectal spacer before any prostate radiation.
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1 Reaction@tattodice Wow, you have a good story to hear as I am approaching the treatment decision which will happen in 2+ months after seeing the RT and Robotics Surgeon. Urologist is suggesting surgery. PSA 10.8-12 aver., T2, 6-3+4, and 1 core 3+3. <5% pattern 4, and <10% found in cores. I am 68 and keen to train prior to and post. I would very much like to track your story onward as I believe that it sounds like how I want mine to unfold...
@johnnyz BTW - surgeon who did my post biopsy pathology review said I was not a candidate for external beam or focal therapy...
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Colin Linke MD
Fort Wayne, IN
Brought single incision RALP to Indiana. Independent practice. Brilliant, kind, warm physician!
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