Lanreotide eventually becomes less effective, why?

Posted by jlsgt @jlsgt, Aug 19, 2024

I'm about to take my 15th shot of the drug. It's my understanding that Lanreotide and maybe all Nets drug therapies only work for so long. Why is that? What's the science behind it? I suspect the cancer eventually finds a work around.

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Turkey asked: "What is one thing that you really enjoy doing, with your unexpected quality of life, that you originally didn't think possible?"

I think I can better answer your question in a different way. Let me tell you some of the things I no longer take for granted.
Looking into my wife's loving eyes. A good hug with a friend or family member. Sleeping good at night without pain or painkillers. My joints are not aching. I can sit in a restaurant without a donut under my bottom.
Feeling good when I wake up and feeling I can take on a days worth of work or a days worth of fun. It's just simple things, I know. I don't take em for granted because I didn't think I would get back to this. 🙂

How bout you, Turkey? What are you enjoying these days?

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@jlsgt I like how you answered things better than how I asked. Kudos to you. I can relate with everything that you typed other than the donut under my bottom. I have been able to avoid that so far. I also enjoy taking my dog on walks and hikes. I live in Arizona, so we can stroll through the desert or hike through the mountains up north. We are in our monsoon or rainy season. I really enjoyed getting drenched and playing in the rain yesterday. Jumping in the puddles was so much fun. I also enjoy listening to music and dancing on the furniture, cause I can now, like no one is watching... well accept my wife who joins in. I really enjoy remembering how much fun fun is and trying to have it as much as possible. Like you, I don't take anything for granted anymore. I've been reminded how precious life is.

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Turkey, good for you. I think we have both grown to appreciate an extension of quality time in this life.

An Amazon driver, maybe 21 years old, told me the other day that he wanted to have a nice house on some land and a nice truck to drive. I said those things are nice, but are you healthy? He said "Yes sir". I told him "Well, you're already rich and you don't even know it!" 🙂

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Do not know if this is pertinent to your situation but For those people for whom Lanreotide was not sufficient for symptom relief such as diarrhea NETRF reported today :
: Telotristat (sold under the brand name Xermelo) is an oral prescription medication used alongside somatostatin analog (SSA) therapy to treat severe, refractory diarrhea caused by carcinoid syndrome in adults. It works by blocking tryptophan hydroxylase, the enzyme responsible for the body's overproduction of serotonin in neuroendocrine tumors.

Explanation can be found at : https://netrf.org/events/know-your-nets-2026-virtual-conference/
Should be on You Tube soon

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New to the group.
Distal panceatectomy in 2017. NETs and cells to liver came back after 5 years. From Octreotide to lanreotide ( now continuing) and I just completed course of PRRT nuclear medicine infusions.

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New to the group.
Distal panceatectomy in 2017. NETs and cells to liver came back after 5 years. From Octreotide to lanreotide ( now continuing) and I just completed course of PRRT nuclear medicine infusions.

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@brucegs Hi and welcome to Mayo Connect. Sorry to hear that your NETs have returned. Have they shown up anywhere else other than your liver? How is the course of PRRT treating you?

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@brucegs Hi and welcome to Mayo Connect. Sorry to hear that your NETs have returned. Have they shown up anywhere else other than your liver? How is the course of PRRT treating you?

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@tomrennie Thanks. Yes,there was regrowth at the pancreas site and cell in a lymph node ( which in my reading of last week's MRI report seems to.have diminished.) I'll know more with tomorrow- PET scan and next week's follow up surgeon and oncologist visits.

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@tomrennie Thanks. Yes,there was regrowth at the pancreas site and cell in a lymph node ( which in my reading of last week's MRI report seems to.have diminished.) I'll know more with tomorrow- PET scan and next week's follow up surgeon and oncologist visits.

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@brucegs Good luck with your scan. Hopefully you get good news from the surgeon. Please keep us posted ok?

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@tomrennie

My CgA, serotonin, insulin, pancreastatin and gastrin levels are all elevated but I can't say I feel that bad. None of these levels are super high but I'm told my levels aren't good.

They say my "neuroendocrine cells" are producing too many hormones. I only have a couple of actual "tumors" with a primary one in my small intestine. I don't know what is functional or where the hormones are coming from. They said that having elevated pancreastatin, insulin and gastrin levels doesn't mean there are cancerous cells in my pancreas and stomach.

I know there are visible "localized" metastatic lesions and one "distant" metastatic lesion. I was told there might be microscopic lesions in my liver and pancreas that can't be seen.
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I didn't mean to imply that Prednisone caused cancer. I'm worried that the immunosuppression from prednisone weakened my immune system making it less effective at finding and destroying early cancer cells. Chronic systemic inflammation probably didn't help the situation. Maybe Prednisone "contributed" but nobody ever knows.

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@dadcue
Mike, Your explanation and words "Nobody ever knows" rings true for my situation. I am convinced, however , that doing my own research and presenting my concerns has been taken into consideration by the real NET Specialists.. I surmise that your research and the steps you are taking add to the forward movement in getting closer to knowing.

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@dadcue
Mike, Your explanation and words "Nobody ever knows" rings true for my situation. I am convinced, however , that doing my own research and presenting my concerns has been taken into consideration by the real NET Specialists.. I surmise that your research and the steps you are taking add to the forward movement in getting closer to knowing.

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@maeve115

I'm hanging on to how I currently feel which is pretty good. Honestly, I would rather not know about NETs and I wish I didn't know. There is useful information here which helped me feel better about talking with the NET specialist who said Lanreotide might work until I decide to have surgery. I'm struggling with the idea of having surgery.

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@maeve115

I'm hanging on to how I currently feel which is pretty good. Honestly, I would rather not know about NETs and I wish I didn't know. There is useful information here which helped me feel better about talking with the NET specialist who said Lanreotide might work until I decide to have surgery. I'm struggling with the idea of having surgery.

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@dadcue
Oh Mike.. I suspect all of us would rather not know about NET's and wish we didn't need to do so. You are in good company with that feeling/reaction. It is also an understandable reaction to struggle with the idea of having surgery.. Weighing the rewards with the risks is the challenge we face. Surprisingly, I found Palliative Care to be helpful in the decision process. In our area, Palliative Care is available to all cancer patients no matter what stage they are in.
I hope you can find that competent and compassionate person/team to help you decide and accompany you in whatever path you take.

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