ADT & Diet: What are others generally eating in a day?
Hi everyone! Wife here again looking for advice.
Short summary: Husband (60) had radical prostatectomy 2024, PSA bumped up again so just completed ERBT radiation and is now on Orgovyx, Abiterone, Prednisone. Very aggressive cancer. Treatments under a Center of Excellence. Rough road we are on but doing our best to stay positive.
I am struggling with breakfast. Yes, I stress over feeding him correctly!
Lunch & Dinner is no problem to get in a variety of veggies & healthy protein sources. But what are you eating for breakfast?
I’ve been rotating various egg & veggie combos and what I call loaded oatmeal- oats, a bit of almond butter, a scoop of plant protein, flax, nuts, seeds, raisins, dried apricots etc. Smoothies don’t keep him full for long which doesn’t work with his med schedule. Trying to keep him (us!) as healthy as possible and fill him with needed protein, iron, calcium etc.
Would love to hear what others are generally eating in a day. Thanks in advance for any yummy food suggestions!
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Thanks @anything4him : ))).
Boys usually don't have stamina to read a lot of pages ; ), so I make it easy for them by typing only relevant parts . lol
I really hope that many will read the whole booklet !!!!
PS: Whoever is interested in casein effect on PC cancer cells here is the one of the links :
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01635581.2019.1622742
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4 ReactionsI originally posted this back in Dec. Happy to see so much discussion!!
After so many visits, our Mayo team did not seem overly concerned with our diet. I’ve brought it up to our Oncology team members a few times. We eat pretty healthy. I cook our meals & any desserts from fresh real ingredient- always sneaking in protein & all kinds of seeds, flax, chia etc. Lowfat yogurt & almond milk. Only eat red meat on rare special occasions. It felt like a “enjoy your life” discussion with Mayo, which sadly I do understand under the aggressive situation we find ourselves in. So, we are eating healthy overall but giving ourselves the permission to occasionally be bad just for fun 😊
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I agree 100%, occasional anything for special events is absolutely OK 😎 !!! It is only when something "not so healthy" is in our diet every day and on regular bases that it can have any effect.
Changing one's diet on a long run is one of the most difficult things for people to achieve - many doctors do not even mention it since there is about 99% chance that it will not happen. I am not talking about cancer only here, it applies to all diseases. Many times it was proven that high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, etc. can be greatly prevented and even reversed with proper diet and exercise but it is soooo hard for humans to do it, most doctors just offhandedly mention it and than offer drugs for fast fix. People are happy to see nice blood-work results but their problem is not fixed. It just "looks good" on a blood panel and the problem will continue to get bigger and bigger with adding drugs that "correct" side effects of the first drugs etc.
Honestly, if I was a doctor myself, I would have the same approach since life-style changes are so hard for people to make. So, I am not surprised that Mayo doctors do not spend much time on it. UCSF is very active in doing actual research in complementary medicine, they have the whole center dedicated to it (UCSF Osher Center for Integrative Health).
Anyways : ))), I digress lol, it is all up to individual patient to implement what they want or can or not implement anything if they want.
Whatever I post I post for others trying to inform and help , I already know all of this. ; ) For my husband this special diet did not prevent BCR but for many others it MIGHT : ))) ! That is my motivation - to help others. 🥰
Also, having a wholesome diet and exercise supports body during horrible therapies involved (RT and ADT, pluvicto, chemo) and can help prevent lasting side effects. I mean at least that is obvious and proven fact in multiple studies done with PC patients.
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7 Reactions@surftohealth88 OK, another In Vitro study - serum free - which might be good for research purposes but does little to show how a human’s metabolism might process the casein protein.
Place almost anything in a ‘culture dish’ of cells - cancerous or not - and you will see exaggerated responses to that compound.
Not disputing the findings, just questioning the method.
Phil
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That was quite a post, Surf! I loved it. See, to me I'm trying to think of eating foods to kill this c word. I know that's not 100% possible and that's what sends me down a dark road when it comes to eating. haha I think I need to focus on being less "hair splitting mode" and more eating simply good things for you. I do enough veggies and fruits and I LOVE salmon. Probably eat it at least 3 times a week. I can't stop! hahahahaha Thanks again Surf!!
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3 Reactions@heavyphil
Ya know, Phil, I think I read that same article. Wondering if maybe I should do a 1% at times. Hmmmm.....Or maybe go back to greek yogurt? I'm not eating non-dairy, no sugar ones as of now. This can make ya go stir crazy!! 🤔😁
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I've not ZERO discussions with my doc about what I eat. I wish they would have come out as soon as I had RP and recommended a basic roadway of food. All I've learned is from this site and I'm SO appreciative!!! Keep it going people!!! 🙂