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ADT & Diet: What are others generally eating in a day?

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@surftohealth88 I totally agree with the notion that any effort - no matter how small - is a positive step.
But there is so much conflicting evidence when it comes to the subjects of dairy and soy…mind numbing!
Some are retrospective meta analyses, some are done only in vitro, and some are purely anecdotal.
For dairy, Some studies cite casein, others IGF-1, others the fat content and some - the estrogens…
For soy, it’s the type of soy (fermented vs non fermented), the nationality of the man eating it, and whether it does anything at all in grades higher than G3+3…
However, most of the studies end with the same caveat: we don’t know for sure because of the unknown genetic/behavioralfactors present.
Individuals raised on soy in a country which has used it for millennia may
have a distinct genetic advantage over those men from countries who never used soy.
So just as insects and animals have evolved over thousands of years and have been nourished by the plants which have co-evolved with them, so too have humans, over time, evolved by what they’ve eaten.
So just because a certain Asian has a lower incidence of PCa because he eats more soy than the average Westerner, it does not necessarily follow that the Westerner will share that advantage.
Of course, you have to do what seems best in your own situation. My reading (I can’t call it research) tells me that there is no smoking gun when it comes to dairy…but maybe some bullets.
Soy too MAY be a help, but certainly not for someone with a high Gleason or Decipher Score…so why bother eating it?
I personally now drink 1% milk at times and eat 0% Greek yogurt every single day; many of the studies I’ve read point to the milkfat as a ‘possible’ culprit, and lowfat dairy has not been shown to be a factor in PCa recurrence, while higher fat dairy has.
But I myself have suffered recurrence 🤔 so I’ve come to accept that things might just be a bit out of my control, I should enjoy the foods I like (in moderation!) and get whatever future treatment I might need from the best doctors out there. More than that I cannot do…Best,
Phil

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@heavyphil

Boy that's a lot to take in my friend! What I gather from this is nothing alone with keep us from recurrence. I think I'll stick to almond milk. I also stopped doing greek yogurt and switched to non-dairy yogurt. It's all so damn confusing! I really appreciate what you've said and may make some small changes in my diet. Thanks again man and best of luck to you!!!!!

Doug