ADT & Diet: What are others generally eating in a day?

Posted by anything4him @anything4him, Dec 11, 2025

Hi everyone! Wife here again looking for advice.

Short summary: Husband (60) had radical prostatectomy 2024, PSA bumped up again so just completed ERBT radiation and is now on Orgovyx, Abiterone, Prednisone. Very aggressive cancer. Treatments under a Center of Excellence. Rough road we are on but doing our best to stay positive.

I am struggling with breakfast. Yes, I stress over feeding him correctly!

Lunch & Dinner is no problem to get in a variety of veggies & healthy protein sources. But what are you eating for breakfast?

I’ve been rotating various egg & veggie combos and what I call loaded oatmeal- oats, a bit of almond butter, a scoop of plant protein, flax, nuts, seeds, raisins, dried apricots etc. Smoothies don’t keep him full for long which doesn’t work with his med schedule. Trying to keep him (us!) as healthy as possible and fill him with needed protein, iron, calcium etc.

Would love to hear what others are generally eating in a day. Thanks in advance for any yummy food suggestions!

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@zzotte
Oh, I absolutely agree : ))) - the bigger variety if healthy stuff we eat , the better đŸ‘Żâ€â™€ïž : )))

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@surftohealth88

"of" healthy ...

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@zzotte

"Statistical data shows that Asian and Pacific Islander men have the lowest documented incidence and diagnosis rates of prostate cancer compared to other major racial and ethnic groups globally and in the United States. Data from the National Institutes of Health (.gov) and Stanford University indicate an average rate of roughly 59.3 per 100,000 men, which is significantly lower than rates seen in Caucasian, Hispanic, and Black populations."

The belief is that it is because of soy consumption (milk, tofu, soy sauce, etc).

Over-consumption of anything can cause problems, even consuming too much water. lol

So yeah, normal amount of dietary soy is OK - eating tons of it (or anything else ) is not . ; )

Soy contains high levels of phytoestrogens, which are plant compounds called isoflavones that structurally mimic human estrogen. Now that we have PATCH study showing that estrogen patch works as well as ADT for prostate cancer suppression , I do not see how any doctor can put soy in "questionable" category ???

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@surftohealth88 While Soy is generally accepted as being ‘good’ for PCa, there are MANY variables that affect its ability to exert positive effects on any given population. In fact, it has both androgenic and estrogenic effects, so which one is doing the job??
I read an 12 page article on ICUROLOGY.ORG which for some strange reason I cannot seem to paste to the forum, exploring the different kinds of soy products and the men it positively affects.
In a stunning turnaround, it seems to have NO effect on Asian men - something that’s been drummed into our heads for decades; it does, however, have a positive effect on Latino and Black men.
Also, the benefit is directly related to the grams of unfermented soy (milk - NOT tofu!) consumed per day and that # is approx 150 grams
a LOT!
Finally, any benefit at all was small and ONLY clinically significant in men with small, localized PCa or low grade PCa; it had ZERO effect on men with intermediate grade or higher.
So all the talk about the wonders of soy seem highly exaggerated.
I urge anyone pursuing soy as an alternative to dairy to find this article and read it; it is a meta analysis of ALL studies ever done relating to soy and PCa and covers millions of men in those studies.
If I can find a way to download it here I will
Best,
Phil

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@surftohealth88 While Soy is generally accepted as being ‘good’ for PCa, there are MANY variables that affect its ability to exert positive effects on any given population. In fact, it has both androgenic and estrogenic effects, so which one is doing the job??
I read an 12 page article on ICUROLOGY.ORG which for some strange reason I cannot seem to paste to the forum, exploring the different kinds of soy products and the men it positively affects.
In a stunning turnaround, it seems to have NO effect on Asian men - something that’s been drummed into our heads for decades; it does, however, have a positive effect on Latino and Black men.
Also, the benefit is directly related to the grams of unfermented soy (milk - NOT tofu!) consumed per day and that # is approx 150 grams
a LOT!
Finally, any benefit at all was small and ONLY clinically significant in men with small, localized PCa or low grade PCa; it had ZERO effect on men with intermediate grade or higher.
So all the talk about the wonders of soy seem highly exaggerated.
I urge anyone pursuing soy as an alternative to dairy to find this article and read it; it is a meta analysis of ALL studies ever done relating to soy and PCa and covers millions of men in those studies.
If I can find a way to download it here I will
Best,
Phil

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@heavyphil
My husband is now consuming soy milk and whey powder as extra protein source per his nutritionist suggestion, so any benefit however small is welcome ; ). He is light eater in general, eats fish or chicken for dinner and that is faaaarrr from being enough for a person who will be on ADT for 18 months. So - soy and whey it is 👍 : ))) ! He actually gained muscle in those 2 months of extra protein and weight lifting - feels great and looks great đŸ„°.

All things that help in "small amount" cumulatively do help.
All tings that "do harm in small amount" cumulatively do some harm.

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