Help finding HRT over 10 years post menopause
Looking for any leads to find prescriber for HRT. My sister with Osteoporosis has been to 3 doctors and Midi and all refused. She is 64, 14 years post menopause. Many people have said Midi will do this, but they refused, saying they are required to follow the guidelines, which are no prescribing HRT more than 10 years post menopause. Location is Pittsburgh or Cleveland.
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You may want to check out Keith McCormick; he is a real expert in bone health. If you read this forum, you will hear his name mentioned quite a bit. He has a really good book intended for both patients and doctors called Great Bones. And here are a video to get you started:
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1 Reaction@countryliving I think many of these questions regarding your DEXA scan what the results mean are questions you should ask your doctor. Remember that bones change very slowly, so you have time to get answers to your questions before you make a decision about bone drugs. It's normal to feel scared. Again, you have time to research things and get answers to your questions. Don't feel pressured to make a quick decision. There's lots of information on this site and people willing to help.
Usually the DEXA scans the lumbar spine. The upper portion of the spine is not included in the DEXA scan because the ribs are in the way.
Check out Brick House Bones on Facebook by Dr Lisa Moore, a PT specializing in osteoporosis. She has free exercise videos and information, although drugs are not discussed. The Better Bones website also has great information.
Here is a link to discussion that might be helpful regarding tests that are available. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/bone-scans-explained-and-what-your-results-really-mean/
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Which anabolic?
@daisy17
Thank you for your thoughtful info, resource suggestions and wise words. I will check them out today.
Yes!, I did plan to take time to decide the best route to follow for my recommended therapy from my Endocrinologist and for ME and my body.
Especially now, that the initial shock of this diagnosis has settled.
I have a very special family trip planned this October, a two week cruise on American Cruise Line on the Great Lakes from Buffalo to Milwaukee. I’ve set myself the goal of making an educated and well informed decision in November, and hopefully moving forward then, or very soon thereafter.
This site - of all of us sharing our findings, knowledge, experiences, and outcomes has been a treasure chest of bits and pieces coming together for me for the osteoporosis puzzle I never guessed I’d have to piece together and complete! I feel very blessed to be where I am in my 75 years, and my heart pinches when I read the struggles of woman 20-25 years younger than I am and their journey that they face going forward.
Thank you, Daisy@daisy17 and I wish you the very best and may every day be the best day you have had.
Nan
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Which anabolic you ask me? I had my initial consult visit with the Endocrinologist last week, Wed. 6-10-26. She had reviewed my maintenance Bone Density exams done at the same facility starting with:
10/2000,
02/2004,
09/2006,
08/2011,
10/2015,
11/2017, last one of L3-4
04/2022,
05/2024,
05/2026
Her thought was for me to use Forteo (teriparatide) pen, self injections for up to two (2) years, to build bone, followed by an antiresorptive agent to maintain the bone built (decided towards the end of the two years).
Her clinical observation would be supported or adjusted after the lab studies she wanted me to complete, which I did do the following week, 6-18-26.
The lab studies ordered:
Creatinine 24 hour urine, a fasting CMP (comprehensive metabolical panel), Collagen Type 1 C-Telopeptide,
IgA,
PTH,
Phosphorus,
Protein Electrophoresis serum,
TSH,
Tissue Transglutaminase IgA,
Vitamin D 25-Hydroxy.
I am waiting to hear back from the Endocrinologist office. In the meantime,I am doing my due diligence, and after I hear back from the office, I may seek a second opinion, supplying all my radiology and lab reports.
I will make no treatment decisions until November at the earliest.
Where are you, on this osteoporosis journey we share?
@gravity3 I get so mad about that damned study. There are days I wish we could all file a class action suit against them...but that's just wasted energy. Thanks for sharing your pragmatic perspective. I had written off HRT (I'm 65 and about 15 yrs postmenopausal) but I think it's time to rethink my thinking. I don't know much about functional medicine so it's time to learn something new!
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I started 12+ years ago. I knew nothing and didn't find resources. I wish I was starting my journey now......scratch that..... I wish that I had been started on hrt after my spontaneous early menopause at 38. I don't know if that would have changed my dx of osteoporosis but certainly adding more strenuous weight bearing exercises would have helped my bones along with hrt. Because I had osteopenia and my U. C. Davis PCP told me not to fall as a treatment plan I did not begin drugs intervention right away. Anyway I was given alendronate for 3 years, then forteo for two, 2 more years of alendronate ( during that time I had no idea what the drugs were supposed to do or whether I could have side effects. I had some minimal gains from forteo. I then had 1 year of evenity. I have just had my 4th shot of Prolia and now am considering whether to get one shot of reclast to deal with Prolia rebound hoping I'll get to have a drug holiday.
On a brighter note I have not had noticeable side effects with any of those medications.
@bmblsad
Yup. Sometimes my anger wells up about the WHI study too. Wasted years. I'm especially pissed about my libido disappearing for years and years but the testosterone I take with the rest of my bhrt fixed that!
@gravity3
It is amazing you have had no noticeable side effects with any of the Rx medications you have used! That truly is a very good thing. I hope I will be as fortunate, once I start.
You said you don't know if starting HRT at 38 yo would have changed your dx of osteoporosis? I’m pretty sure it would have delayed it, like I feel it did for me. I was 39 yo when I had to have a total (non-cancerous) hysterectomy. Fortunately, my OB/GYN Nurse practitioner immediately placed me on Premarin tablets. This was 1990! I used oral HRT for many years, I think to about 55 yo, when natural menopause would have occurred. Then, Premarin was stopped, and I was placed on Femring, a three month ring worn internally. Due to insurance coverage-the lack of it-for “Femring” product, several years later, I changed over to Pfizer Estring (7.5 microgram/24 hours internal ring delivery system. Estradiol Hemihydrate). I am still using it and I’m 75 yo and just moved from osteopenia into osteoporosis. I did always have a lot of physical activity in my lifestyle, and a very calcium rich diet, along with an over the counter vitamins and minerals routine.
The Corvid pandemic starting Jan 2020 and the next two to three years, I feel set me back big time health wise. I never got Corvid but the early isolation, change of anct levels, and different eating style due to less shopping trips and access to easily buy fresh fruits and vegetables, etc., took bone mass from me. Or else those years coming forward are just the normal aging process catching up to me. I don’t know, but I have boarded the darn osteoporosis train.
@countryliving
I agree. Starting hrt at that age would have bought me time. Thank you for sharing your story. You were so fortunate to have that forward thinking medical care.
It exactly the train journey I dreamt of but here we are. How about meeting in the dining car for a stiff drink!!!!
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