@cehunt57 What you said is true, but I have seen a lot of doctors and two specialists. They all had something to say from "it's common", "try this", "colonized E. coli", and "normal parts". Here, take some more drugs. After my last round with Cipro and the devastating effects of it, I just kept up with the literature myself. I'm 2/3 through my Uromune Rx and have high hopes for it. For one thing, it has already been over two whole months without a UTI, and the studies on it have been great. Not that providers need to have firsthand infections themselves to be a good doctor, but I asked all of them, and NONE had ever had one themselves. Where I live now, I can get antibiotics without an Rx, and I was using Macrobid, one of the ones that is specific and doesn't ruin your ears, etc. Too late for that! Cipro caused tinnitus (along with other horrible things), so now I'm vaccinating with Uromune. I sure don't want to die from UTIs like my parents and MIL did. How pointless.