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High arsenic and thallium in urine - concerned
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Hi there, I did a 24 hour urine sample for the same heavy metals test a few weeks ago, just got my results and the thallium is high as well. When reading your post, after trying to figure out where I was recently exposed, I noticed we eat alot of the same foods and same brands. I have been eating the Whole Foods 365 organic wild blueberries, and Pitaya Immunity Fruit almost daily as well for the past 45 days. Wild blueberries always, and I discovered the Pitaya Immunity Fruit blend at Costco last month and have eaten ~4 bags since then. Coincidence you post this too? I'm wondering if something was contaminated in the soil where they sourced those. I did see there is a thallium home test to test liquefied foods/supplements and I'm going to explore that avenue.
My typical diet is all organic and any supplements are pharma grade. Looking at food logs, in the last two months, I've been eating alot of wild blueberries from whole foods and both costco, the pitaya immunity fruit blend, sweet potatoes, red potatoes, spinach, avocado, nuts, oats, tofu, fava bean tofu, cacao, brown rice and white jasmine, peppers, onions, ketchup, hot sauces, food for life breads and wraps, etc. etc. I typically shop at whole foods, sprouts, and costco. I also take different vitamins and minerals on rotation, which I going to test.
I have not had any instances of stomach upset that I remember, so this result was surprising. Only my thallium was slightly high, which is concerning but not at the poison level, but still a red flag that something has contamination.
Have you done any further testing since December or found the source? Thallium around this range indicates a recent exposure or very low dose chronic exposure.
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In January I did a 24-hour urine test which showed normal arsenic and mercury, and borderline thallium (2 mcg/24h), which I considered a massive improvement over the 8.3 mcg/g creatinine result from the December spot urine test. This was after I had made changes to my diet for at least a few weeks, most notably cutting thallium accumulators (including temporarily cutting frozen broccoli and kale, and permanently cutting Brad's Crunchy Kale, which the author of a study confirmed to me was the source of thallium poisoning affecting a family that had consumed these regularly). I also replaced brown rice with other carbs, mostly jasberry rice, whole wheat bread and quinoa (latter I had already been eating), and replaced high-mercury fish with low-mercury alternatives, to minimize arsenic and mercury respectively which were well in-range on the 24h test although elevated on prior spot tests.
Currently I eat a moderate portion of broccoli up to once a day (not the two big servings I often used to) mixed with other veg. Since I eat less broc now, to get more sulforaphane I've been eating organic broccoli sprouts up to twice a day (brand Fullei Fresh), hydroponically-grown, meaning grown in water so no risk of thallium contamination from soil.
At the time I continued to eat 365 wild blueberries and Pitaya Immunity Fruit, which I'm not aware of having thallium issues (there don't seem to be any associations based on search). I rarely eat Pitaya Immunity Fruit now simply because I replaced it with Whole Foods 365 fruit (e.g. strawberry and bananas) for something different, although I regularly eat Pitaya avocado. I still eat 365 wild bb pretty much daily, a moderate serving typically once a day. I also eat nuts daily and often root veg including potatoes (e.g. 365 root veg).
In your list I noticed a potential thallium accumulator - spinach. Maybe try cutting that (at least temporarily) and see if it improves.