Cauda equina syndrome (CES)

Posted by sheabebabe @sheabebabe, May 2, 2017

2011 I started with pain down my legs I could hardly walk it was so painful. After the MRI didn't come out well at a clinic I went to the hospital suicidal saying I'd rather die than live like that another day. They did MRI and found I had L5S1 slipped disk. They admitted me for pain management and started me on pain meds. I was relived finally I knew what was wrong and had meds to help the pain. Found a pain clinic and my first injection was wonderful took the shooting leg pain away. I tried a couple more with little success then the last on he knick something which caused a large hematoma. So very painful. Swore I'd never do it again. Last nov I turned from the sink heard a pop and instant pain I thought it was like other times where some prednisone would do the trick. It got worse I started loosing feeling below and pee just poured out when I stood. I went right to ER. The surgery they said I could not have because of weight was finally being done. 5 months later I still have tons of nerve type pain and I have a foley cuz I have Cauda equina syndrome (CES).

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@mackvogt13 that is bizarre! I have some degree of CES but also IC! I never think of them as related. I have been in remission with my IC for about a year and a half (after having DMSO installations). My remission I attribute to increased B12 plus HEME Iron. (plus I eat an egg in the morning (more B's and iron) and a diagnosis of Insulin Resistance for which I am on Metformin and my GOUT (high uric acid levels) and now I take Allopurinol. I stopped needing to adjust my diet and stopped getting irritated. So I don't know which helped but maybe it all did. Something to look into for you!

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@loriesco So as I look more into CES that seems to be something created by a trauma and not something chronically brought on but causes chronic pain. however, the pain of IC and CES r similar and i do have all that back pain and weakness. I actually just got checked for a herniated disk. If you have CES i’m assuming you would know within 48 hours. thank you for all this information. the installations and DMSO sound pretty similar. I am glad you don’t have to adjust your diet anymore and you have figure things out. Hope you are doing better!

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@loriesco So as I look more into CES that seems to be something created by a trauma and not something chronically brought on but causes chronic pain. however, the pain of IC and CES r similar and i do have all that back pain and weakness. I actually just got checked for a herniated disk. If you have CES i’m assuming you would know within 48 hours. thank you for all this information. the installations and DMSO sound pretty similar. I am glad you don’t have to adjust your diet anymore and you have figure things out. Hope you are doing better!

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@mackvogt13 CES is a physical problem. (I didn't know if you meant emotional trauma). It IS chronic. (here's the definition: "Chronic describes a condition, disease, or problem that persists for a long time, typically lasting 3 months or more, is long-lasting, or recurs frequently. It often implies a slow progression rather than a sudden onset, often used in medicine to contrast with "acute," and in daily life to describe persistent negative habits or situations." Cauda equina is a nerve root - a major one - and it can squished over years. That was my situation. Probably over 30 years as my lumbar spine compressed and finally squashed the nerve root to its demise. If I wouldn't have had surgery I would have lost use of my legs... I was on my way. I had surgery immediately when I met my current surgeon. I was ready! hang in there! Blessings of pain relief and a great outcome!

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@mackvogt13 CES is a physical problem. (I didn't know if you meant emotional trauma). It IS chronic. (here's the definition: "Chronic describes a condition, disease, or problem that persists for a long time, typically lasting 3 months or more, is long-lasting, or recurs frequently. It often implies a slow progression rather than a sudden onset, often used in medicine to contrast with "acute," and in daily life to describe persistent negative habits or situations." Cauda equina is a nerve root - a major one - and it can squished over years. That was my situation. Probably over 30 years as my lumbar spine compressed and finally squashed the nerve root to its demise. If I wouldn't have had surgery I would have lost use of my legs... I was on my way. I had surgery immediately when I met my current surgeon. I was ready! hang in there! Blessings of pain relief and a great outcome!

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@loriesco Ues i did mean that CES was caused physically trauma but i was mistaken when i said it couldn’t be chronically brought on so thank you for clarifying. best luck to u as well

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I can't seem to find a group for cauda equine syndrome so I chose chronic pain. So if there are People on here with CES please respond. My name is Skip, had back surgery and had a blood clot after surgery. It compressed the nerves at the nerve root, have most of the normal problems. Bad back pain, numbness down my legs, pins and needles in my feet, have to use a cane or wheelchair, loss of bladder function, terrible rectal nerve pain, I could go on, but if you have CES you no what I mean. Have had this for about 8 months now and I would like to hear from anyone who has had treatment for CES. My pain Dr. has no clue what to do. Just on pain meds now and would like to know if spinal injections would help. This stuff is really bad, Lyrica doesn't seem to help, Morphine and Oxycodone help but in no way takes the pain away. I really hate the mornings when the meds have wore off a bit and I have to get out of bed, sometimes I take a pain pill and give it a half hour or so then get up. The pain just continues to worsen and I'm concerned about the future. My Surgeon just stuck his head in the sand, wouldn't even discuss my diagnosis with me just wrote it down so I could Google it. He has virtually told me nothing. Will never go back to him. See a new Surgeon in a couple of weeks. Would love to hear your stories.

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@skiprel1957
Same boat Skip, it sucks. I didn't make it to the toilet this morning, 2 steps away and bladder gave way, had 2 occasions of same thing with rectum. I had 3 level ALIF back fusion surgery over 2 1/2 years ago by an orthopedic surgeon, diagnosed with adhesive arachnoiditis almost a year ago. I have severe spinal canal stenoses and moderate to severe foraminal stenoses at several levels. I walk with a cane due to drop foot, but this morning could hardly walk. I am going to make an appointment with a neurosurgeon on Monday morning. I am due for another MRI. I am now on oxycodone 10 mg which helps the pain, also pregabalin, max dose 1200 mg/day plus methylprednisolone for 4mg on M,W,F. I have had chronic back since 20's,, we are about same age, me born in 54. Look up Arachnoiditis, you may have a toch of that too. From what I have researched they go hand in hand sometimes. Also look up Dr Tennant and Tennant Foundatio. Hang in there and continue this communication.
Dave

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