Bowels rebooting post surgery? Never trust a fart!

Posted by fritzo @fritzo, 1 day ago

Just sharing a few thoughts on my post surgery experience and the re-firing of your digestive system, which is more polite way of saying that robotic laparoscopic surgery does a full knock-out to your bowels.

Waking it back up and getting it back to normal is a slow process during recovery. First thing, I’m not sure I’m the norm because it seems like symptoms are incredibly variable for us all. Just sharing my experiences. Recovery veterans, please share advice you have for folks.

Big deal phases of surgical recovery;

• You pass gas and people cheer! Hey, your digestive system is waking up. Let everyone know – Party Time!

• You poop! An aura sweeps across the horizon as the heavens open up to the news of your little, semi-solid gift to the world. You have offered the number one of all number twos of all time. It is fully celebrated for all its glory.

Let’s face it, we’re back to being praised like newborn babies who go through similar stages of digestive awakening. But, hey. I’ll take it. Yes, let’s celebrate these victories. It's a good thing.

But, there are practical matters after that. You don’t go straight from gas to poop. And, early on in digestive rebooting, never trust the fart!

My first gas was likely 10 hours after surgery (bit of a blur). The second gas was an hour later. However, the second release also had liquid and I got soiled through my gown. The nursing staff is prepped for this and not a big deal to clean things up. I think the nurse didn't expect this quite so fast.

In the next couple of days, here are the early warning signs that things are afoot; you hear your digestive system rumbling in sections of your body never heard since perhaps your college days mixing alcohol drink types that should never have be drunk in quick succession. Or, that trip to Tijuana and you bought the street tacos. Then, it settles and goes away. Gurgle. Rumble. Quiet in the valley. This is the precursor.

The nature of its full arrival is like you are standing atop a beautiful mountain range appreciating the beauty of nature and than a distant earthquake starts rumbling off on the horizon on another range. It then reverberates closer, now moving across your belly down to your lower backside. It rests for a bit. Then it gains power again and re-energizes. You resist, not knowing whether to clamp up or let it loose. After all of that, you emit a small, slow and less-than-impressive extended toot. A sigh of relief.

Then, a second wave comes and then the next toot includes a bit of soft liquid. Not a lot, but enough to warrant a change. You then realize….”Never trust a fart.”

When I it was time to go home (just four days ago),, I decided to up my insurance policy by wearing a pull-up brief even though it sounds like most people don’t do this.

What I knew was that people recommended wearing a continence shield up front because you do get some leakage around the catheter. But, I hadn’t heard a lot about the digestive system process. The car ride home went without incident in that regard, so yea for that.

But, I think my pull-up brief was a good call for me. It’s the nights that are tricky. You wake up with the rumbling. A low thunder. Is it a fart? Do I need to get up and get to the toilet? Trick question! You eventually find out....It’s probably both!

It’s getting better. I’m passing small, super-soft stools now. I now know when to get up and go. It gets old. But, hey, this shall pass and it’s getting better every day. Also, I’m early in this process and they say it takes at least a week to get close to normal on bowel function again.

For me, I was glad to have a brief (or shield) protection up front around the penis just from a hint of blood here and there early on (which is normal-sigh), nothing dramatic. Also, since my docs have me put on Bacitracin four times a day around the tip of penis and just up the catheter tube a bit, a shield up front helps keep that from staining underwear or shorts.

So, short version:

• Don’t trust a fart. If you are up to getting to a toilet, give it a go. If you can’t, it’s nice to have a brief to catch the initial watery mix. Having a protective pad on your sleeping spot is good insurance – though we haven’t had to change it yet.

• Candidly, a brief with tabs (diaper) would have made more sense for me during this phase because getting the catheter bag through the brief leg hole to pull it up over your hips is an annoyance I could do without. Also, getting a brief off with a catheter on is tricky too. Supposedly, you just tear the sides. But, instead, I keep a pair of scissors by the toilet and that works great.

• Take your stool softener. Remember, constipation is the enemy during the post-surgery recovery process. Let those urethral stitches heal and don’t put pressure on all the work they did inside.

• Follow your doctor’s suggestions. If you haven’t pooped, do the meds they suggest to get your system rolling. (in my case, two-ish days post surgery, a capful of MiraLax mixed with water taken earlier in the day did the trick).

Finally, I am so appreciative of my amazing wife, who has been such a strong support through this process. Early on, she told me to stop saying sorry and just is just there to help me through. Incredibly grateful.

That’s all I got so far. And again, I’m likely not the norm. But, this has been my experience on this segment. I’m too early on in this process to have more advice. What say the rest of you??

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OK - there is one more useful product, I do not like to mention it since it has some fragrance added and it might be irritating to some sensitive people. On the other side, I have extremely sensitive skin and am prone to sensitivities and allergies but I do not react to this cream so I will post it BUT please be observant.
https://www.cvs.com/shop/balneol-hygienic-cleansing-lotion-3oz-prodid-448835
This product is useful for travel - you just squirt some cream on TP and than proceed as usual. VERY soothing and cleans well.

Of course, nothing beats warm shower down there or a bidet. I would not be able to live without washing myself every single time, as do all of my family members. It is just different level of clean LOL.

Wipes also clean nicely - I am just to sensitive to them, no matter what the brand is.

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One thing, if I could do it over, would be to buy one of those bidet toilet seats. You can get them from Walmart for $100 and they hook right into the toilet’s water line, so it’s easy to install.

I looked it up in my patient portal, and I was on a capful or single dose of Miralax once a day for 14 days.

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@turtbean Thanks for the TurtBean! Super helpful-thanks for running that down.

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@readandlearn
I did have a doctor mention that instead of more expensive wipes, you could use large cotton balls soaked in water. Extremely soft, but put one each time on top of the TP, obviously to keep your fingers from getting yuck. Also DO NOT flush those down the toilets, just wrap the tp around them afterwards. The cotton balls also squeeze out the soaked water within your cheeks. He mentioned as an alternative before moving on to a bidit, if hesitant about getting one right away.

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@wheel1 Things I never would have thought of ever. Crazy how many great ideas are out there-thanks!

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@fritzo
Here is a link to the Biobidet model that I bought, which is now about four years old and still works great for me. My only issue is every bathroom that I walk into now, I expect the top to automatically open up so clearly I’ve been trained by my toilet.
https://biobidet.com/products/discovery-dls

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@bens1 Wow-so much tech going on there. I never ever though of bidets as something to look into.... This one is not cheap, but, ya know, we spend a ton of money for things that might not make as much difference.

Per surftohealth88's suggestion, I order one of little portable bottle for $14 to test this whole concept out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YDQTRWB

Maybe I can put it on my Christmas list? 🙂

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@heavyphil This is what I'm talking about! Products advice as well-thank you!

I wish we could put together a permanent post with advice like this for future message board people.

I had bought a few wet wipes to be ready for the next phase after incontinence...didn't realize I would need them sooner...so thanks for the advice!

(in the no filter department... I literally was reading your advice while seated on the oval throne, pulled out one of those non-flusihable wet wipe and then dropped in the toilet....NO!,,,, I'm a not a look at your poop sort of guy. A fail in my adulting department I know. Thought about it for a moment....hey, my wife has nylon gloves on the counter....I put one on, a quick swipe to pull the wipe and it wasn't too horrifying. On to the next adventure)

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@fritzo You are killin’ me, Fritzo!😂😂😂
Phil

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@bens1 Wow-so much tech going on there. I never ever though of bidets as something to look into.... This one is not cheap, but, ya know, we spend a ton of money for things that might not make as much difference.

Per surftohealth88's suggestion, I order one of little portable bottle for $14 to test this whole concept out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YDQTRWB

Maybe I can put it on my Christmas list? 🙂

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@fritzo
Loved your idea of a portable. I better start exercising my hands so I can increase my volume if I buy that thing.
Bio bidet also has a refurbished/new half price Bidet’s web page
https://biobidet.com/collections/outlet-center

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@fritzo
Loved your idea of a portable. I better start exercising my hands so I can increase my volume if I buy that thing.
Bio bidet also has a refurbished/new half price Bidet’s web page
https://biobidet.com/collections/outlet-center

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@bens1
Oh, there are some battery operated - I just posted this one since it is easy to use , easy to clean and is VERY affordable and not dependent of additional "parts" or steps ; ).

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@fritzo
Loved your idea of a portable. I better start exercising my hands so I can increase my volume if I buy that thing.
Bio bidet also has a refurbished/new half price Bidet’s web page
https://biobidet.com/collections/outlet-center

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@bens1 Yeah, butt washer and hand exerciser in one. That's a fail for their marketing team.

OK-that helps....discount prices. When you said refurbished...I got a little worried....but looks like they haven't been used yet. Ummm...ya know.

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