Leakage after Prostate Cancer surgery: Concerned about travel and pads

Posted by eshan @eshan, Feb 26 1:34pm

I am 77 years old. Had a robotic surgery in middle of Feb. 26.
The surgery went smooth. Now I am having leakage issue after Catheter removal. I do Kegels exercise several times in a day. I walk 2 miles everyday.
I am using pads and diapers. I have to change pads several times a day.
My question is how difficult is to travel for 3-4 weeks ? I long I have to use pads & diapers ?
Thanks

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Stay strong! Two and a half years post RP I am mostly dry except for the gym. And a medium pad works.

If you can find and afford one, please find a Dr of PT that specializes in treating men post RP. They do exist in every American city. Recovery for me was far more than Kegels.

Next diet. For me sugar and caffeine caused increased leakage. To the gentleman who noted to weigh your pads and journal the difference. Do that, its important to see what's going on.

Stay hydrated. Lack of water causes your urine to be more concentrated and this irritates the bladder.

Remember, today you are alive and with the grace of God on the road to a healthy life.

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@dmccarthy104
Great post!

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This is my 1st post although I have been reading comments on this site for months. I am 75 and had my robotic surgery at Mayo last September. The info that the doctors give you concerning post surgery is correct as well as what the many members on this site have said. It takes TIME and dedication to doing Kegel's to achieve continence. In my case the 1st month+ after surgery was tough, diapers and numerous pads. It progressively got better and after 4 months I was down to 1 pad a day and none at all at night (gravity, I guess). At the end of month 5, we travelled to New Zealand and Australia for a month returning just days ago. Everything went well except I needed many bathroom breaks on the airplane and during the land trips. I think the break in a home routine as well as the time (6 months) finished the job as I am now almost 100% back to normal. It is a slow process and most guys want a quick fix to things. Good luck in your journey.

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@captainbrent, I love it when a reader/lurker comes out from behind the keyboard to make a post. Welcome.

Your message is helpful and hopeful for men facing surgery. The trip sounds amazing, although I'm sure you were nervous about making such a long flight after surgery.

Now that you're back home, how are things going in your own surroundings and routine? Still doing Kegels? Keeping active?

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Colleen, this forum has provided me with valuable insights and if my journy can help someone, that is what I want. Yes, I was very nervous during the pre trip planning phase, an aisle seat near the bathroom was important. But it all went well. I am a very active person and have completely adjusted to being back home and still do my Kegels, but not more than 20 min a day and I often skip a day. This is what I have learned that may help others: I did my Kegels every day post op, but never more than 20 or 30 min during the day...usually 2 sessions of 10-15 min. Like any muscle group, that in my case, needed building up, I needed to do it slowly and not over due while the muscles were getting stronger. When I got to the point where I could hold off urinating even though I thought I needed to go, the muscles seemed to be doing their "New" job. At that point, it was mostly a mental thing. After all, my brain had to use a new approach to knowing how to control the flow from what it was used to. I remember getting one night post op saying to myself: "I have to learn how to pee again just like a little child does". Anyway, I think I confirmed this by my trip, as I didn't do hardly any Kegel's for 30 days, yet I am now (at 6+ months) almost 100% back to normal and can enjoy a few beers at happy hour with no problem. The solution is: after the muscles are strong enough to do their job, the rest is rewiring your brain to use them involuntarily. I have no idea how to do that, but I think it is the key.

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My comment doesn’t help you with traveling. It will get better. My Robot assisted operation was March 3rd. At 6 weeks out I just use thin dribble pads. I use a fresh one in the morning and it usually last all day until bed time. A fresh one at bedtime. I usually sleep all night without any leakage. Small dribbles during the day especially if you sneeze or move the wrong way. It seems to be getting better every day. Just got my follow up PSA test was .014. Made me very happy. Good luck with your travels. Make sure you drink enough water. Don’t try to regulate your leakage by cutting back on fluids.

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@jeffmarc
Very help full tip Jeff.
I will try the clamp.

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@eshan I’ve used a clamp, also Weisner, for 4 years. Works like a charm.

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My comment doesn’t help you with traveling. It will get better. My Robot assisted operation was March 3rd. At 6 weeks out I just use thin dribble pads. I use a fresh one in the morning and it usually last all day until bed time. A fresh one at bedtime. I usually sleep all night without any leakage. Small dribbles during the day especially if you sneeze or move the wrong way. It seems to be getting better every day. Just got my follow up PSA test was .014. Made me very happy. Good luck with your travels. Make sure you drink enough water. Don’t try to regulate your leakage by cutting back on fluids.

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It has been 8 weeks since I had Robotic Surgery. I am still on 5 medium pads, 3 during the day and 2 during the night.
More the water I drink, and more I walk, I have to change the pads in 3 hours.
It is frustrating. My checked out < 0. 014 which is a very good.
I guess I have to deal with it. We cancelled our trip in July. I was not sure how long it will take stop leaking.
Thanks everyone for your input.
Eshan

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@eshan I’ve used a clamp, also Weisner, for 4 years. Works like a charm.

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@lsk1000
Mine is not working as as good as yours. I use it when I take the shower.
Thanks for reply.

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@lsk1000
Mine is not working as as good as yours. I use it when I take the shower.
Thanks for reply.

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@eshan
The clamp is to prevent Leakage. When you’re in the shower, leakage is irrelevant. Why would you put the clamp on when in the shower? Peeing before you get in the shower would really reduce the amount of leakage to almost nothing. It’s something you would use when you’re outside the shower, At least that’s when I use it, when I go to the gym, when I go out to dinner, when I go dancing with my wife on Saturday nights. That’s when you don’t want leakage.

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How I wish that all prostate removal surgeries were performed using the same technique that was used on me.
I wish and hope this technique will be soon a standardized protocols for every person who decided to undergo prostate removal surgery.
I have my surgery on March 9th...5 weeks ago.
I feel very good and feels like I do not have any surgery at all.
New surgery technique’s can give immediate continence and with nerve sparing. The old stories everyone has grown up about being incontinent and impotent after prostate surgery are giving way to the new technology. I even went home from surgery the same day.
all urine leakage had completely stopped on fourth day after catheter out.
Surgeon is approaching the prostate from behind the bladder (through the pouch of Douglas), it avoids damaging the Retzius space, offering superior, often immediate, urinary control.
He further does Retzius sparing of the tissue between the bladder and the prostate which further helps with continence. During the surgery he send I was in surgery the prostate tissue to check on clear margins to the hospital pathology for staining to see whether I had the clear margins.
Many Surgeons do not bother with this and at your post surgery appointment they give you the disappointing news that you have positive margin.
will repeat myself I hope this technique will be soon a standardized protocols for every person who decided to undergo prostate removal surgery.

I had a DaVinci Robotic Single port (one incision) surgery.

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@eshan
The clamp is to prevent Leakage. When you’re in the shower, leakage is irrelevant. Why would you put the clamp on when in the shower? Peeing before you get in the shower would really reduce the amount of leakage to almost nothing. It’s something you would use when you’re outside the shower, At least that’s when I use it, when I go to the gym, when I go out to dinner, when I go dancing with my wife on Saturday nights. That’s when you don’t want leakage.

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@jeffmarc
Thanks Jeff.

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