Does the anxiety or fear of this prognosis ever get better?

Posted by rudysmom @rudysmom, Apr 6 10:44am

Maybe it’s just me, but since my diagnosis a few weeks ago my anxiety is through the roof. I made appointments with 2 different Endocrinologist and I have my first appointment tomorrow, hoping it will help put me at ease. As soon as I wake up in the morning it’s the first thing I think of or even in the night if I wake up to roll over. The information is so overwhelming do this not that, then you’ll read something saying the total opposite. The statistic of 1 out of 2 women will get a fracture is mind numbing. I feel like I’m doomed no matter what I do. Every time I get a twinge in my back I now think, here we go. I’m 60 and have no other health problems and take no medications, yet. I exercise every day now and listen to books on tape to get mind focused on something else. I’m not afraid to do the work, just afraid of the future outcomes, which I know I can’t control, but anxiety and fear have their own ideas.

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@junesiegel I agree that the appellation of "disease" is misleading. Disease connotes abnormality, but if one of every three postmenopausal women is being "diagnosed" with osteoporosis, the finding of low bone density would appear to be normal--or at minimum, a common condition vs a disease. The rationale for calling it a disease seems clearly linked to setting the stage for prescribing meds.

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@otherside I have never heard it referred to as disease. It’s more a disorder caused often by our loss of estrogen.

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I found the book "Great Bones" by Keith McCormick to be very informative.

Without getting into a long drawn out story, my last Dexa scan showed a significant deterioration in just 2 yrs. I had failed to tolerate a bisphosphonate so I was open to stepping up to another medication. I saw my elderly mother sustain multiple fractures during the last 10 years of her life including a severe vertebral fracture that caused her to need narcotics. I don't want that for myself.

I made peace with the idea that I have to do what I have to do right now to protect my bones REGARDLESS of a preference to avoid medications. It is what it is, as they say. I'm almost 70. If I were in my 50s with osteopenia, I would be proactive with supplements and maybe HRT. But right now I do not have the luxury of "experimenting" with this or that supplement while my bones are significantly deteriorating. Am I going to wait yet another 2 yrs for the next scan to show me even more deterioration? Perhaps have a fracture in the meantime?

My PCP recommended a rheumatologist rather than an endocrinologist. I'm not really sure which one is "better" for osteoporosis. My rheumatologist did a workup and started me on Evenity. I decided I'm going to trust her. I have peace about my decision, I'm not going to be anxious about this. I'm being given a chance to rebuild my bones while still young and hopefully will not have to live out my 80s-90s with pain and physical dysfunction.

Medications all involve risks vs benefits and it's a personal decision. For me, the benefits of Evenity outweigh the risks.

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@followheart87 I was in exactly the same position. I knew I had to take action with medications, despite my reticence to do so. The alternative was losing my independence and being afraid to continue skiing and being active. I did my homework and settled on teraparatide/zoldronic acid …. thankfully I found an endocrinologist who agreed with me using a bone-building drug, even though I did not have any fragility fractures.

I made excellent gains in my spine, and average gains in my hips. Super happy I took action. I just had the zoldronic acid infusion yesterday. So far, so good. Just a slight allergic reaction (uncommon), but nothing Benadryl didn’t fix. I hope, at age 67, to be able to have a very long drug holiday if I;m able to maintain with weightlifting, nutrition and supplements.

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I try to get 1200 mg of calcium from food (yoghurt, milk, cheese, dark greens), but if I don’t hit the target I supplement with liquid calcium. I take 2500 UI of vitamin D, and during the winter (I ski in BC, not much sun), I up it to 3,500. You should have your doctor monitor your Vitamin D levels to find the right amount for you. I also take 100mg of K2 at the same time I take my vitamin D in the morning. I try to spread out my calcium intake through out the day. I get 500 mg at breakfast (yoghut, granola, milk, berries/bananas), then some at lunch and dinner. I top up before bed if I haven’t reached my target during the day.

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It DOES get better once you have a plan. I would suggest staying away from negativity on this forum. Every person is different and I notice the loudest voices are the people who are unhappy with treatments. Find an endocrinologist and physical therapist you trust and tune out the noise.

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I understand people are more autonomous today and make their own decisions about their health problems but osteoporosis is one of those conditions that is not monitored very often like cholesterol so you cannot know for sure if your lifestyle is helping it or not. One can experiment with supplements and nutrition and get their own cholesterol tests to see how their dietary changes helped their cholesterol. One can't do that with osteoporosis. It's 2 years to wait for the next Dexa scan and by then, your bones could be even more deteriorated.

In 2023 my Dexa scan showed mild osteoporosis so I went on a bisphosphonate and couldn't tolerate it after 4 months. I went off it and focused on nutrition, supplements and weights. This turned out to be the wrong decision for me. I wasted almost 2 years taking matters into my own hands rather than seeking professional recommendations. I should have seen Rheumatology after going off the bisphosphonate. Perhaps I would have been started on the next level of medication. I regret that I didn't look into it. I was complacent. Now I have severe osteoporosis.

Everyone is different. My friend has only mild osteoporosis and is focused on nutrition, supplements and exercise and it sounds like her tests have been stable. That wasn't the case for me.

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@followheart87 There are options to waiting 2 years between DEXA scans to see how your bones are progressing. I am getting self-pay Bone Turnover Marker (BTM) tests tomorrow. Last January both my husband and I got REMS tests. You can see other discussions of REMS on this site.

In the below video, Dr. Doug breaks down a tool for monitoring bone health beyond a DEXA scan: bone turnover markers. Through drug trials and diet research, he demonstrates how these markers predict outcomes long before imaging changes.

Stop Waiting on Your DEXA: How to Track Bone Health in Real Time


I am not saying that you should change your approach, but I want to be sure people know the options!

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It DOES get better once you have a plan. I would suggest staying away from negativity on this forum. Every person is different and I notice the loudest voices are the people who are unhappy with treatments. Find an endocrinologist and physical therapist you trust and tune out the noise.

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@nannygoat5 yes, and do good research so you can get the best results from docs by asking questions that are important to you… a proactive patient and a doc who really listens is a strong combo…with OP, patient doing their part is critical to success.

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My doctor prescribed Evenity due to my severe osteoporosis. She told me that if my Dexa scan results showed mild or even moderate osteoporosis, her treatment decision would have been different.

I'm pretty sure Evenity isn't prescribed for someone with mild or maybe even moderate osteoporosis. You can't just "choose" to go on Evenity yourself. There are criteria for going on it. The insurance company won't approve it otherwise. I understand it's like $4000 per injection out of pocket. I don't pay this, however.

I was told I have "end stage osteoporosis". For me, it's too late for nutrition, supplements and weights. In fact, I already did all of those things through most of my life. I can't rely on "maintenance" drugs at this point because my spine is already too deteriorated. I need a bone rebuilding drug.

I understand Evenity is like a game changer. Yes, there's a risk of heart attack and stroke. I had to get a cardiac screening before going on it. I'm willing to take such a risk.

Like I said, Evenity isn't prescribed for someone with mild osteoporosis nor even moderate. There are other drugs in the pipeline. It's for someone with severe osteoporosis.

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@followheart87 Would you mind sharing your DEXA scores? I've never heard of "end state osteoporosis" -- what determines that? FYI, I am 76 and my worst score is in my back at -4.1, which I know is severe.

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@otherside I have never heard it referred to as disease. It’s more a disorder caused often by our loss of estrogen.

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@lynn59 I'm most often in the support groups on Facebook, where it's constantly referred to as a disease.

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I’m not a fan of the Facebook groups. I find this one more in tune and helpful without all the “noise”.

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I felt the same way
I found BRICK HOUSE BONES on Facebook. Dr. Lisa Moore is amazing and helped me.

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@maryandnans
I agree!!

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