Endoscopic vs open spine surgery for L1-5 stenosis and spondylosis?

Posted by Mariette R. @marietter, Nov 13, 2025

Any comments on lumbar endoscopic spine surgery instead of open spine surgery for L1-5 stenosis and spondylosis?

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@rockinrene65 - welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm sorry your pain is horrific. Sounds exceedingly hard.

Glad you've connected with @jenatsky. Hoping others in this discussion will also have ideas for you on how to manage the pain short- and long-term, such as @cjr14 and @marietter. If you've not already met @jenniferhunter, I'd like for you to meet her, too.

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- Blood Cancers & Disorders Support Group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/blood-cancers-disorders/, and especially this discussion in that group:
- Adult Langerhans cell Histiocytosis and CMML https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/adult-langerhans-cell-histiocytosis-and-cmml/

- Diabetes & Endocrine System Support Group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/diabetes-and-endocrine-problems/

When you said you are seeing your neuro Friday, I believe you are talking about a neurosurgeon, but you also could be talking about a neurologist? Will you let us know? Do you have some questions written down that you want to ask him or her at that appointment?

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@lisalucier

Thank You !

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I would be interested in hearing what people have to say about this also. I just had an open lumbar decompression of L4-5, L5-S1 for central canal stenosis and bilateral medial facetectomy at both levels as well as a Microdissection. I was having debilitating nerve pain in my left glute, all the way down my leg to include my ankle, foot and toes with numbness and my skin was so sensitive at times that I couldn’t even touch it. I was not able to stand or walk for more than 30 seconds before the pain became so intense I had to sit or lie down.

2 weeks post surgery, I would say ~90% of the pain is gone. I don’t want to jinx myself, because I know it’s early in the recovery but I am hopeful. Long story, a friend had similar symptoms (maybe not as debilitating) and he had a minimally invasive laminectomy the week before me. I would like to know the specifics around choosing one over the other, the M-A surgery obviously is a less extensive process and quicker recovery.

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I was having debilitating nerve pain in my left glute, all the way down my leg to include my ankle, foot and toes with numbness and my skin was so sensitive at times that I couldn’t even touch it. I was not able to stand or walk for more than 30 seconds before the pain became so intense I had to sit or lie down.

This is my issue rite now, after pinpoint cortisone injections and pt it was ok but not much long relief, now I am on opiods ..the damage continues I believe and the injections that once worked also contribute to thinning bone and tissue damage, great rite...I still wake scream/cry for 20 minutes till my meds kick in, I am wearing down now after a year of this horror/ Not sure surgery would help more or not at this point.

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@rockinrene65 you didn’t say what pain meds you’re taking or how long you’ve been on them? No you shouldn’t be in intractable pain. After my 1988 fusion and laminectomy I was put on Tylenol #4 and eventually #3’s for over 10 years. I was switched to morphine pills and after a few years on that I went to a time-release morphine pill. This eventually stopped working sufficiently for my pain relief. I’ve been on buprenorphine patch which provides 24/7 relief. I went from 15mcg patch every 7 days to 20mcg after a 2 week trial. I’ve been on that same dose for about 5 years with good results. But with your comorbid conditions I don’t know if you can use it.
I can totally understand how you feel and why you feel this way. Chronic pain is very debilitating and it takes a lot out of you. I find that stretching, exercise helps my pain relief as does walking which I do every day.
Have you tried acupuncture, Myofascial release, mindfulness therapy? I’m doing all of these because I don’t want to take any breakthrough meds. I also micro dose THC and CBD 3 times a day. You need to investigate a few methods to help yourself be pain free and thinking outside the box helps. I hope the neurologist can help explain thing’s further? You might ask what is stopping them from performing the MILD procedure too,

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@jenatsky

Hey there,
I am on Norco 5mg, 2 tabs every 4=5 hrs, Daily
Norco is (hydrocodone/acetaminophen)

These have been working well, however wake in agony scream/cry till they kick in about 20 minutes, then able to move. Walking has become harder and no way to get on my treadmill now, I do have a stationary bike, just not willing yet to try, sitting on ice works best. All I know is some days I wish not to awaken ya know....but others I am grateful!

I have plch so surgery is a high risk for me, as I live on oxygen 24/7 at night a Bipap My stats are 8-10 liters, which is very high...the 8 lb full tanks only last me 30 minutes as it used to last 6 hrs @ 1.5 liters in 2015. And now those are hard to shuffle...

I need rest

Thanks for reaching out, God bless you!

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