High Lipoprotein(a) but CAC Score 0
Hi, I'm new to this discussion on heart and blood health.
I just recently took my first Lipoprotein(a) test. Since heart disease runs on my mother's side of the family I thought I should take the test. I'm 68, active at the gym, eat clean diet. The test result was 172 nmol. My PCP immediately suggested a statin (avorstatin?).
Two years ago I had a Cornary Artery Calcium (CAC) test because my husband was put on a statin and requested the same test. His cardiologist suggested I get the same. The result was 0.
Over the last 15 years my overall cholesterol has been going up. I just assumed this was menopause related. Both my HDL and LDL have been creeping up (triglycerides are ok). So for 15 years my doctors have all said don't worry, your covered by your HDL.
So here I am with my PCP suggesting a avorstatin (sp?). I don't want to take a statin just yet because I don't understand why I should. In addition, I have osteoporosis. I understand that statin's are not good for your bones.
Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do?
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There is absolutely no debate in the established medical community on the link between saturated fats, LDL, and heart disease. Heredity is also a factor. As a rule, YouTube should not be the primary source of information. When a YouTube video tells you "everything we've been told is wrong!", I run away, period. When the doctor publishes peer-reviewed research, then I listen. Otherwise, not a chance.
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2 ReactionsOk.....what I see is low CAC, high Lp(A), rising HDL and rising LDL....no reported triglycerides which would be helpful.
CAC only looks at hard plaque not soft plaque....CAC is a picture in time that is frequently zero before about 60 years old or thereabouts. A CCTA is usually used to find a more complete picture if the doctor feels that it is needed.
Lp(A) is more of a future indicator of which way your body may age, plus a major risk factor for the aortic valve.
Without hormone therapy and probably even with BHRT or HRT, albeit lessened, your cardio system will continue to age and be driven by your life style and genetics, Lp(A) is one of these.
ApoB, blood test, might help clarify the LDL by showing the number of plaque forming particles.
But...
It looks like your doctor feels that the higher LDL and the high Lp(A) will be driving your cardio system as you age. So the dr wishes to lower the LDL to lower your risk of cardio plaque forming driven by your genetics, Lp(A) in this case. Basically, your doctor is looking at future problems. It is much easier to prevent a problem than to "fix" an existing problem with plaque etc.
I actually have a similar problem. I have had an array of cardio tests which I requested. My very high HDL and low optimal triglycerides have blinded most doctors to any possible cardio problems. I had a borderline Lp(A) and ApoB, very high HDL, slightly elevated LDL and low triglycerides. My CAC was below 11 in one artery with one valve showing mild calcification, both these areas are where plaque occurs with age, due to the way the blood flows. I am in my 70s so this is a good age to see how the body is using my mixed bag of cardio numbers, earlier in my 50s or 60s probably nothing would have been found on the CAC scan. A mixed bag but heavy leaning towards "no problem".
I am having an ultrasound next week to check that valve just to make sure that the mild plaque is not in a place to impede the valve.
But right now no statins etc are being prescribed.
@gloaming keto diet is very bad news especially with any cardiovascular issues. It's way too much fat . My doctor says people will eventually be sorry they did that .
@whineboy lp@) is hereditary and a keto diet will only worsen it
@bitsygirl I believe it's 125 to qualify for the meds currently in trial phase
@19281928 That's not what we're seeing, and not what many doctors say, including highly regarded cardiologists. See the channel, 'Low Carb Down Under' on YouTube, and Drs Rob Cywes, Nadir Ali, Stephen Phinney, Eric Westman....I could go on....
@gloaming I believe it because when I eat saturated fat my cholesterol jumps . I don't eat meat anymore. And very little saturated fat which is keeping my cholesterol good 44 for LDL
103 for LP(a) when I ate high fat it was very bad (LDL) so I believe my cardiologist and my doctors . And the proof of my lab results. It's ok to disagree. We can have different beliefs 😉
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I think that much of these different reactions may be driven more by individual differences in our bodies rather than different beliefs.
Our bodies just act differently towards fats and different foods and nutrients and even thru different ages of our lives.
Ai says it this way:
People react differently to fats and other nutrients due to a complex interplay of genetics, gut microbiome composition, and metabolic health. This concept, known as personalized nutrition or nutrigenetics, explains why a diet like the Atkins diet (high-fat, low-carb) can yield vastly different results for two people even if they follow it identically.
research with different people and even identical twins and how the react differently:
https://www.fooddive.com/news/study-everyone-responds-differently-to-the-same-nutritional-content-even/556572/
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1 Reaction@kathleen1314 , hi. Thanks for sharing your story. We're a little similar except my Lpa was much higher. I never thought to try co-pilot. I just tried it and helped with some of my questions for the cardiologist.
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1 Reaction@19281928 , unfortunately I've learned the same.... you have to be your own advocate.
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