Does anyone have any first hand experience with Nanoknife procedure?
I’m consider Nanoknife or cyberknife for two lesions both 3+4. From what I’ve read Nanoknife is a very successful treatment with few side effects. I’m located in the Atlanta area but willing to travel. I would greatly appreciate any experience.
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@milburnd
my husband is a candidate for this procedure, but our insurance is denying payment as “research”
I’ve always been interested in the Nanoknife - aka, Irreversible Electroporation (IRE) - technology as a form of focal therapy.
For example radiation (proton/photon) kills prostate cancer by destroying DNA, preventing prostate cancer cells from multiplying, resulting in cancer cell death. And surgery just takes out the entire prostate - both healthy and cancerous cells.
Nanoknife is a surgical ablation of prostate tissue, non-thermal, focal therapy. It uses Irreversible Electroporation (IRE) to ablate targeted prostate tissue while preserving surrounding structures.
As with other focal therapies, how do they determine if they’ve ablated all the cancerous tissue? How much margin around what they can see do they ablate?
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3 ReactionsAny ideas on how to get BCBS to pay for IRE. We have had multiple appeals without success
I didn’t do nano knife, but I did do a focal therapy, Tulsa Pro. My procedure was in July 2024 at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota. I was 65 years old and Gleason 4+3. I liked the technology and the low risk of side effects. Also, Mayo said I was an ideal candidate for the procedure. I know I may have just kicked the can down the road a bit, but I’m perfectly OK with that. My thought process was that if I have to have radiation or surgery later, at least I’ve kicked those side effects down the road a bit also.
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Hi and thank you for the info. I am considering Moffitt in Tampa. Is Dr. Julio Pow-Sang your main urologist there or just is called in for this procedure? I am looking for a reference to one of the doctors there. I am currently in AS.
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Michael
@mike0157
Dr. Pow-Sang was referred to me by the Moffitt urologist who did my biopsy. Dr. Pow-Sang is the Chair of the Genitourinary Department. He was very responsive to my many questions. I hold him in high regard.
@audrey27 Hi Mil,
If you have Medicare Supplement (Medigap) Plan E you can be seen by any provider of your choice. Advantage plans have a few restrictions. If you’re able to switch it would open up many new doors…….
Ray & Lucy 🙂
@cole5055
The problem is, if you’ve already picked an advantage plan then getting A supplemental may not be possible if you’ve had it over a year.
Here are the details?
Trial Period Rights: If you are within your first 12 months of joining a Medicare Advantage plan, or if you left a Medigap plan to join MA for the first time, you have special "trial period" rights, making it easy to switch back.
Guaranteed Issue: If your MA plan terminates coverage or you move outside its service area, you get a 63-day "guaranteed issue" window to purchase specific Medigap policies (A, B, C, F, K, or L) without medical questions.
Underwriting Risk: Outside of guaranteed issue periods, companies can refuse to sell you a Medigap policy due to pre-existing conditions. This is common if you are switching simply because you don't like your current MA plan.
Best Time to Switch: The best time to change is during a "guaranteed issue" period, often within 63 days of losing or changing coverage
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1 ReactionMy husband is still working and not yet on medicare. His insurance is through employer and Blue cross blue shield of Montana is denying authorization
@audrey27 Almost all commercial insurance including Medicare Advantage will not cover focal treatments for prostate cancer (I know of none but could be exceptions). Applies to all cancer treatments considered experimental in the USA even if widely used in EU or other locations. Also unlikely to pay for Proton therapy, Fusion or mri biopsy, and even SBRT for first treatment. Plan to pay out of pocket or chose a covered treatment.
Some focal treatments are covered by classic Medicare and if Medicare pays any gap plan (G & N have replaced F & L for recent retirees) is required to pay per the policy. Gap plans regulated by CMS and do not make coverage decisions.