How do I add aging issues to a life I have never been happy in?

Posted by grasping @grasping, Jan 31 5:24pm

I can relate to all I have read in this aging forum except, as I always find, I mostly feel physically ugly and have felt this way my whole life. Age just makes everything worse for me. I know aging is hard but when I add it to the fact that I have hated myself my whole life, it is unbearable. Been to many doctors and therapist thru the years to no avail. I cannot tolerate any serotonin drugs that may help me. The last straw for me was when, 6 months ago, I had my upper teeth removed because of failing crowns and bridge work. I had implants place and am now getting near the date to get my permanent implant crowns place. The problem is my face has aged at least 10 years because of having no teeth. I wish I never would have done this, I have no faith that my dentist will be able to make my facial structure look any better with the implants. Once again I did something to make me feel better about myself and it will not work out that way in the end. I have not enjoyed my life and aging is a cruel way of going out in my opinion. I do not have the inner self esteem I need to make this horrible life journey.

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Wow... really liked the above post from sisyphus!

But... also the ones following... from the "musicos" -- Ed & NYC... and NOT just cuz I'm one of them. ;>)

And I'm gonna propose we form a small combo here... maybe, we could be "The Mindful Mayo Medical Music Machine," or some cooler / hipper name.

Since I came up with the idea first, I'm choosing to be one of the lead singers and to play either bass or rhythm guitar. Ed and NYC -- are you dudes in? Pick your spots quickly before someone else grabs 'em.

Impatiently, waiting to hear how this flies with the everyone.

/LarryG

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I sure know how you feel. I spent my whole life...my younger life, always thinking about how I look, or what I was wearing, or if there were men who be attracted to me. There weren't. The only men who were attracted to me were men who wanted something from me. It drove me crazy that there were very attractive women who knew how to talk to men and obtained their interest. I couldn't do that. Now I am 86. Very much alone and kicking myself for wasting all that time on things that I really brought me to a dead end...so to speak. When I look back, I think of the things I should have done instead. I should have learned things that would have made me feel good about myself. I wish I had learned to dance. It looks like it would be something that could make a person feel so free, and joyful. You don't even need a partner for that. I wish I had learned to play the piano much better than I was able to. That would feel very satisfying. I wish I could have learned to play the drums. I bet that could have gotten rid of a lot of frustration. I wish I could have gotten serious about a profession that I loved, and others would see me as knowledgeable and competent instead of just seeing what I looked like. Oh yes, and I wish I could have learned martial arts, to give me confidence, and give me the ability to defend myself. With that and dancing, I should have been in very good shape.

I can think of other things I wish I did that would give me self-confidence. To me, self-confidence is the most attractive thing about a man or woman. I think it would have given me the chance to find someone who is not so shallow as to just look for a woman who is "hot".

I don't know how old you are, but I think you would benefit by changing your focus from your looks and how beautiful other women are, to focusing on finding things that will make you feel good about yourself and give you self-confidence. Let whatever happens after that, happen naturally without trying to force it. You are responsible for your own happiness, don't think you have to have someone else to make you happy.

It's too late for me.

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Grasping. I bet you have had and still do have very low vitamin D. And B12.
Get measured.

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@sisyphus
I’ll dare to propose that habit is all we are.
And that habit is how we create or perhaps recreate ourselves
If a random thought pops up when I play a piece, it will usually return the next time I play that piece.
Usually it’s a thought about someone I’m angry with!
To stop this I need to replay the passage, carefully singing along and focusing on the music, just the music, only as many times as I can retain the focus.
Otherwise the piece becomes filled with my angry memory!
When I set out to play a piece, it’s wise to remember the first time I heard it or read it, loved it, wanted to play it, working to have fresh opened ears.
It can take many efforts to find the little movement or preparatory thought that will fix a habitual mistake, maybe just a wrong note or accent, a mistake that I’ve practiced unconsciously just once, or many times.
This is hard work, and a lot like my daily life!

Our past can be terribly powerful in ugly ways, it can rob our present moment of any life and joy.
Or perhaps, with great effort, we can reshape our moments just a tiny bit, and perhaps, done often enough, we can build some habits that make life a little bit better.

Few people who do not practice music can realize how much work it takes to play one simple piece beautifully, with sustained mindfulness.
However, with practice and endless refocusing, the hard work is also joyful, even when frustrating.
It takes a long time to develop the habit.

And I think the same is true of all living.
Keep trying, Everyone!

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@edsutton
anger can also, be a habit.

good luck to us all!

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Are you ok now? Are you happy with your crowns?

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Profile picture for margaretfriel @margaretfriel

@kayraymat
You're My Kinda Person! When I was young I heard my Grandmothers complain about the "Mother Nature's reward for growing old". I was So Sad for them. Then when Mother & Mother-In-Law reached that stage where the wrinkles, sagging, etc. happened, I decided 'when the time comes I'm going to find a Cosmetic Surgeon, Give Mother Nature a Vacation & have a few "nips & Tucks". AT age 60 I Did IT! The surgery was successful, he turned back the calendar approx. 20 years! Then 12 years later I went back & he did a little more of his magic ... would I do it again, YOU BET! At age 88 I'm So Pleased when asked my age, I smile & share, & their response almost Always "Warms the cockles of My Heart" ! It's Not for Everyone, & you Have To start in your late 50's or EARLY 60's. Top Notch Surgeons will make sure you're in Good Health & follow up for +- a year after the surgery, just to be sure everything is going well.
Am I Happy with my decision? ... YOU BET! It had Definitely added to the Quality Of My Life.

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@margaretfriel why do you have to do your first face lift in your late 50’s or early 60’s? I’m 61 and thinking about it.

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@margaretfriel why do you have to do your first face lift in your late 50’s or early 60’s? I’m 61 and thinking about it.

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@bewildered
I am going by what my Plastic Surgeon advised:
a) He said after 'A Certain Age' the chances of surgery causing other problems could increase (due to the anesthesia/discomfort/pain relieving medications/etc. that follow the surgery).
b) As we Age it takes longer to recover from surgery (no matter what kind of surgery it is).
c) As well, as the face ages it may reach a point where the results won't be as effective/satisfactory as doing it when you're a little younger.
Remember, we're All like Snowflakes, no 2 are alike. Hope this helps.

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@margaretfriel why do you have to do your first face lift in your late 50’s or early 60’s? I’m 61 and thinking about it.

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@bewildered
My 2nd & Last plastic surgery was 12 years ago (when I was 76. ... & I Haven't regretted having facelifts for a Nano-Second. Occasionally people have commented: "I Can't Believe You're That old, you certainly don't Look Your Age!" (I smile) Thank Them & give myself a mental "Pat-on-the-back. Last Christmas my Grand-daughter (age 20) & I were together ... another woman inquired "You look so young, do you mind my asking how old you are?" When I answered "87" MY Granddaughter gave me a look of Astonishment, & said "No You Aren't!" I then told them "Born in 1938, To The Math". The Woman asked, "What's Your Secret?" ... (response) "I don't tell this to many people, but because my Granddaughter is with me so I'll share. I had facelifts when I was 62 & again when I was 74., keep my weigh at a healthy number, have streaks of color put in my hair & constantly correct my posture" (Stand up straight & walk like a younger person ... Works For Me! )
Excuse the cliche, but: "Works for Me!" (Oh, & P.S., my Gran-D gave me a Big Hug!)

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Marianne -- Just about all the experts say it's NEVER TOO LATE for all of us... and that there's ALWAYS something we can try.

And with the strong spirit and extensive experience you've shared with us folks here, I'm CERTAIN the above applies to you.

All the best!

/LarryG

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@grasping I agree that "outer beauty" , although it may be "in the eyes of the beholder" goes a long way ... the prettiest woman in the office, the most handsome man at the tennis club etc etc.... but we still had "movie stars" who were not considered "beautiful." I was shortest in my class and you can guess the rest of my life.... inherited my mother's nose which she reminded me of when discussing my birth... lol However, I dont personally refer to it as inner "beauty" but perhaps being content with who we are,.. sorry I cant explain properly how I feel about it... we ARE, in my humble opinion, judged by our looks, even by our clothing, our weight, our verbal communication etc etc. Human are a peculiar type of animal.. but majority of "animals" each look the same as their brethren, dont they? A sense of humour goes a long way and I am beginning to lose mine as I get older ...

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@lacy2

When you spoke of how we are judged by others, I am reminded of something I wished I'd learned earlier in life.

What other people think of you is none of your business.

Has given me a wonderful sense of freedom.

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