Fact and fiction regarding prostate cancer? Fish oil, vaccines, etc.

Posted by wert1234 @wert1234, Mar 4 5:39pm

Is any body taking fish or krill oil ? I’m seeing conflicting reports concerning prostate cancer.

Also. Has anyone come down with prostate cancer since being vaccinated from Covid?

 

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Not to confuse anyone. But has anyone in this talk group come down with prostate cancer ( after ) receiving the Covid vaccination? I realize A good many on this group had prostate cancer way before Covid .

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ALA is very strong anti-oxidant in general. It definitely helped me heal my lingual nerve damage and it has many other benefits.

Yes, of course, always check about possible interactions with medications you take, otherwise it is just very good anti-oxidant and especially helps with nerve problems.

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@surftohealth88

with regard to Alpha Lipoic Acid supplement: while ALA is found naturally in organ meats Flax seed and leafy vegetables..it is in very small amounts. Supplemental ALA is a synthetic version of ALA and is a more concentrated doseage..usually 300-600 mg...and has shown to have health benefits ( I take 100-300 mg every few days)...taking very high doseage of ALA should be done under doctor supervision ( more is not necessarily better).

there have been studies which indicate ALA may have some preventive and helpful effects with regard to PC suppresion...but more studies need to be developed and run...

lastly, as with many drugs and supplements, sometimes the results are counter intuitive to what one would assume ( particularly in dealing with most all cancers..) since we all have slightly different metabolisms and reactions to drugs/chemicals. And that is why cancers are so hard to stop/cure. they are very individualized as they have to do with our unique cell division process.

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Not to confuse anyone. But has anyone in this talk group come down with prostate cancer ( after ) receiving the Covid vaccination? I realize A good many on this group had prostate cancer way before Covid .

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@wert1234

No one is confused. You are looking for a causal link between the vaccine & cancer.

This is complicated by the fact that most men "come down" with prostate cancer at least a year before they know it, making any association dubious at best.

Just like most people come down with a cold or the flu (& are unknowingly contagious) a day or two before they have symptoms.

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Not to confuse anyone. But has anyone in this talk group come down with prostate cancer ( after ) receiving the Covid vaccination? I realize A good many on this group had prostate cancer way before Covid .

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@wert1234 If there were a correlation between COVID vaccines and cancers, it would have shown up in the huge worldwide natural experiment that happened from 2020–23.

Some countries (like Canada) had relatively high vaccination rates, while others had much lower rates. Even within the U.S., vaccination rates varied dramatically from state to state and even county to county.

If prostate cancer had skyrocketed in jurisdictions with higher vaccination rates, we'd know by now.

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@wert1234 If there were a correlation between COVID vaccines and cancers, it would have shown up in the huge worldwide natural experiment that happened from 2020–23.

Some countries (like Canada) had relatively high vaccination rates, while others had much lower rates. Even within the U.S., vaccination rates varied dramatically from state to state and even county to county.

If prostate cancer had skyrocketed in jurisdictions with higher vaccination rates, we'd know by now.

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@northoftheborder

There has been a huge increase in prostate cancer cases in men.

In 2020 there were over 191,000 men newly diagnosed.
Last year 2025 there was there was over 313,000 newly diagnosed men . That’s a significant increase in the amount of men from 2020.

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@northoftheborder

There has been a huge increase in prostate cancer cases in men.

In 2020 there were over 191,000 men newly diagnosed.
Last year 2025 there was there was over 313,000 newly diagnosed men . That’s a significant increase in the amount of men from 2020.

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@wert1234 And has it correlated with vaccine uptake? In counties/states/countries that had higher vaccination rates, have prostate-cancer rates been higher than in counties/states/countries with lower vaccination rates? (Answer: no.)

What has happened is that they've been doing much less routine PSA screening, so patients are arriving with their cancer already well underway. And during the pandemic, many people skipped medical appointments altogether, so other cancers went undetected early as well. 😢

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IF there is any correlation ( for the sake of the argument) , PC would be nudged more by COVID infection itself and not as much by vaccine since COVID infection causes MUCH bigger and stronger immune reaction and COVID virus lingers much longer in the body - for some people 2 weeks or even more.

So IF there is any correlation it would sooner be between ACTIVE COVID INFECTION where the WHOLE virus is present in a body and not by vaccination since vaccine has only fragments of the RNA of the virus (just the parts that make spikes).

COVID virus DOES attach to prostate gland and can cause PSA rising during active COVID infection.

Inflammation can cause cancer - it is big cancer promoter. I personally do not think that COVID infection causes cancer but I would not bet on the fact that it does not have a potential to "aggravate" already existing cancer or mets.

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IF there is any correlation ( for the sake of the argument) , PC would be nudged more by COVID infection itself and not as much by vaccine since COVID infection causes MUCH bigger and stronger immune reaction and COVID virus lingers much longer in the body - for some people 2 weeks or even more.

So IF there is any correlation it would sooner be between ACTIVE COVID INFECTION where the WHOLE virus is present in a body and not by vaccination since vaccine has only fragments of the RNA of the virus (just the parts that make spikes).

COVID virus DOES attach to prostate gland and can cause PSA rising during active COVID infection.

Inflammation can cause cancer - it is big cancer promoter. I personally do not think that COVID infection causes cancer but I would not bet on the fact that it does not have a potential to "aggravate" already existing cancer or mets.

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@surftohealth88 There are three interesting small-scale, non-causal correlations I've read about:

1. Jurisdictions that have older populations tended to have higher vaccination rates and higher cancer rates (but the COVID vaccinations didn't change the cancer rates before/after).

2. Jurisdictions that have more actively health-seeking populations tend to have higher vaccination rates and higher cancer *diagnosis* rates, but lower cancer *mortality* rates (because their cancer often gets detected earlier, when it's more treatable).

3. In many jurisdictions there was a fall in cancer diagnosis rates during the first couple of years of the pandemic when people stayed home, then an increase the next couple of year after people started going to see the doctor again, which gave the false impression of a surge in cancer after vaccination (but it disappeared once doctors cleared the backlog).

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@northoftheborder

There has been a huge increase in prostate cancer cases in men.

In 2020 there were over 191,000 men newly diagnosed.
Last year 2025 there was there was over 313,000 newly diagnosed men . That’s a significant increase in the amount of men from 2020.

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@wert1234
The baby boomers are getting older and prostate cancer is mostly a disease of older people. I saw a report at a seminar last year that said they’re supposed to be more than 350,000 cases in 2026.

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@heavyphil
No,
Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) is
not the same as alpha-lipoic acid (ALA). ; )

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@surftohealth88 I was talking about alpha linoleic, not lipoic.
They are both abbreviated the same, unfortunately.

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