Getting PSA results with impossible fluctuation: What's up?

Posted by bobbyshay @bobbyshay, Jan 29 11:57am

Dx with stage 1, low risk, Gleason 6 after PSA level 6.19 led to biopsy.
I've been getting psa test for 15 years and it's always been in the 3 range. Since my Dx it has been in the 5's, Yesterday I got a result of 4.8 and I was happy. I have to clarify that I didn't check my results last time in August. But I got a test from the VA primary Dr in Sep that I did check. So the urology clinic called and said my level went way up and I was like, say what?!!? I said no it's actually been going down. She proceeded to tell me the level in August was 0.21. I proceeded to tell her, that's not possible. My VA level 1 month later was 5.3. Now my urologist wants to see me in a month. Anybody ever heard of something like this?

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@heavyphil There are those that would call you and I jaded. I would call us realists and the others in denial.

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@tdoriausername Well, we have to realize that doctors are human too; they have assets, faults, prejudices, comfort zones, etc.
It’s important to ‘read the room’ so to speak and you can only do that if you educate yourself beforehand.
You don’t have to challenge every word or treatment suggestion, but you have to be able to sense BS when it’s coming your way.
I’ve been to doctors whom I’ve felt were very sincere - but not up to date on current research; others can cite chapter and verse of the latest breakthroughs but they come off as hustlers more than caregivers…it’s a tough needle to thread.
Phil

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@tdoriausername
No one would give you chemo unless you had multiple metastasis throughout your body that needed to be treated. If that were true, they would not touch you with TulsaPRO or NanoKnife. That might also want you get a PSMA pet scan too, to see if there is any spread or cancer.

With you only Having 3+3 there’s no reason to do any treatment. At best, the MRI can only tell if there might be something there. You wouldn’t want to get treated for a maybe.

Active Surveillance would require a PSA test every three or six months nothing else. Once a year you might get an MRI or a biopsy to see if it’s grown or spread. What they’re looking for is a doubling rate of your PSA to see whether something is necessary to do more than test.

They would want a biopsy if the MRI showed tumors. Hard to treat it if you don’t know what it is. MRI Results come out with a PIRADS score, Something over 4 may be cancer something under 4 may be cancer, Neither may be cancer. Hard to treat if you don’t know the answer.

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Man does not need to be taught as much as he needs to be reminded. Thank you for confirming those things I already know.

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The last time I was at my Dr he started writing notes in my file. But it wasn’t my file. Weird things happen from time to time.

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I recently was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Total score was 3 + 3. Thankfully I am currently on watch status. As a lymphoma survivor I am taking it in stride.

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@fitzhealthacct2025, welcome. I'm glad the prostate cancer was caught early so that active surveillance is the recommended treatment plan. "Taking things in stride" sounds like a wise plan.

May I ask how long ago you were treated for lymphoma?

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@fitzhealthacct2025, welcome. I'm glad the prostate cancer was caught early so that active surveillance is the recommended treatment plan. "Taking things in stride" sounds like a wise plan.

May I ask how long ago you were treated for lymphoma?

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@colleenyoung
Thank you!

I was diagnosed in June of 1985, started treatment in July after staging laparotomy and splenectomy. I finished treatment in September of 1986. Long journey but well worth it!

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@colleenyoung
Thank you!

I was diagnosed in June of 1985, started treatment in July after staging laparotomy and splenectomy. I finished treatment in September of 1986. Long journey but well worth it!

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@fitzhealthacct2025 , and here to tell the story!

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