PMR relapse symptoms

Posted by abbeyc @abbeyc, May 28 9:11am

For anyone who had PMR and tapered off steroids. Did your PMR come back? How quickly? And did it feel the same as the first time?

I’ve been off steroids for 1 month and feel a lot of stiffness which has grown increasingly each day. Mostly in hips, thighs, shoulders and hands as stiffness. This is not the same as my original full blown PMR. The stiffness is different every day and the worst only of it lasts a short while until I have moved around. But now the stiffness is lasting more throughout the day as a more mild annoying stiffness making it difficult to get around.

Wondering if others post PMR have similar issues and considering this to be a PMR flare.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

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I’m having the same issues after being off Prednisone for 2 months. My rheumatologist waved goodbye and said to take Tylenol 3 times a day, like forever. She said I now had osteoarthritis and not PMR. (General arthritis patients at Kaiser are treated by primary care docs. ) But I keep wondering if there’s more to the aftermath of PMR than is understood by rheumatology.

When I originally got PMR, I did some online searching and learned that it is a sadly “neglected” disorder in that there has not been a lot of funding or research into causes and treatment. Most likely, doctors are in the dark about the aftermath as well, leaving patients scrambling to understand what is going on. Hence this support group, which has been of great help to me.

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@elsbeth My rheumatologist advised taking 2 mg of prednisone a day, like forever, I guess. I had osteoarthritis (from my dad) before I got PMR (from my mom). Lucky me. After getting off prednisone and feeling fine for a couple of months I now take Alleve (naproxen) for the aches and pains. I'm giving PMR a year to scram. Not sure what I'll do if this gets worse. I'd be happy if they just did more research on prednisone and made it a less destructive drug.

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@elsbeth My rheumatologist advised taking 2 mg of prednisone a day, like forever, I guess. I had osteoarthritis (from my dad) before I got PMR (from my mom). Lucky me. After getting off prednisone and feeling fine for a couple of months I now take Alleve (naproxen) for the aches and pains. I'm giving PMR a year to scram. Not sure what I'll do if this gets worse. I'd be happy if they just did more research on prednisone and made it a less destructive drug.

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@54pontiac sounds like a good plan.
Yes agreed about Prednisone. Wouldn’t that be nice!

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I was diagnosed with PMR 2 and a half years ago, took prednisone and then Kevzara. Have been off all meds and pain free for six months but am in pain again. Inflammation markers up slightly but still in normal range, but the other symptoms are back. This is depressing. Also some neuropathy in my feet. I realize I am lucky -- I am 88 and this is my first major health hit.

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I was diagnosed with PMR 2 and a half years ago, took prednisone and then Kevzara. Have been off all meds and pain free for six months but am in pain again. Inflammation markers up slightly but still in normal range, but the other symptoms are back. This is depressing. Also some neuropathy in my feet. I realize I am lucky -- I am 88 and this is my first major health hit.

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@paulagcl so sorry this is happening again.
Are the symptoms as bad as the first time?

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Someone sent me this link today and it’s really good information for those coming off steroids.
https://canadiancentreforaddictions.org/prednisone-withdrawal/

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Someone sent me this link today and it’s really good information for those coming off steroids.
https://canadiancentreforaddictions.org/prednisone-withdrawal/

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@vjm0223

Excellent!!! Thank-you for posting this link. I think there should be warnings when treatment with Prednisone is initiated. The warning should read that we should listen to our doctors who want us to taper off Prednisone as soon and possible. Also, we should only take the "smallest effective dose" and for the "shortest time possible" for PMR/GCA.

I was guilty of listening to internet advice which said increase my Prednisone dose for "niggles of pain" and Prednisone for the "rest of my life" if needed was acceptable. There are some conditions like "primary adrenal insufficiency" where lifelong Prednisone is appropriate.

Sadly ... long term prednisone to treat PMR/GCA often results in "secondary adrenal insufficiency" which makes it very difficult to taper off prednisone. I didn't need any encouragement to take more prednisone for any longer than I already did. I took prednisone for 12 years for PMR which wasn't exactly a success story.

It wasn't that I was "addicted" to prednisone. However, my body was telling me that it "depended" on me to take prednisone.

I didn't find out that my adrenals would be slow to respond and might not make enough cortisol again until 10 years after my first dose of Prednisone. I don't know which condition is less poorly understood --- PMR or secondary adrenal insufficiency from long term Prednisone.

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Someone sent me this link today and it’s really good information for those coming off steroids.
https://canadiancentreforaddictions.org/prednisone-withdrawal/

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@vjm0223 great article!
and why aren’t doctors referring us to any of this information?

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Maybe some would if we posed the question.
I find the pharmacist gives me more information than the doctors.

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Someone sent me this link today and it’s really good information for those coming off steroids.
https://canadiancentreforaddictions.org/prednisone-withdrawal/

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@vjm0223 This is a fantastic article! Thank you so much for sharing it. I have gone down from 20mg to 2 mg in 11 months. I was doing very well until now. This article takes away all the mystery. I am printing it to use a reference. Thank you again!!!

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@vjm0223 great article!
and why aren’t doctors referring us to any of this information?

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@abbeyc because we don’t know what we don’t know.
But I have been asking my rheumatologist why I have pain after tapering off Prednisone. Along with a long host of of other doctors.
Her last answer was keep doing what you are doing which is pursue each type of pain or ailment with each type of other medical specialist. Neurologist. Orthopedist. Endocrinologist, masseuse , hormone specialist ….

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