Questions regarding total hip replacement

Posted by Mamie @mamie, Dec 26, 2017

Hi, I would appreciate any feedback. My left hip joint is totally collapsed and has been for about 4 years. For some reason, I do not have pain. However, the collapse has left my leg shorter and has forced me to be heavily dependent on a cane. I've seen 4 orthopedic surgeons over the years and have gotten varying suggestions. One said not to get THR because I have no pain. Another said he could do it with anterior approach but it would require a lot of cutting, etc., and probably not be the best result. The third said he uses anterolateral approach but he had never seen a collapsed hip without pain. He said that the surgery would be a success but he didn't think I would be happy with the outcome because of possible damage to already weak muscles. The 4th said that he would do it with a posterior approach (is there only one type of posterior approach?) that he thought would give me the least damage. I'm 65 and would like to again enjoy some active years without a cane. I've read that hip surgeries are among the most successful but I get scared when I read forums. My friends remind me that people who have successful THRs don't usually get into forums because they don't have problems. Is that right? Or is the marketing for THRs not mentioning the infections, etc., that come afterward? And how/why do these infections occur? I want to move on with my life but I don't want to exchange a very inconvenient limp/cane for pain and problems. Am I just being a worrywart or ? Thanks for any thoughts.

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I am one of the successful ones. About three years ago I had a left hip replaced and I had zero pain after the surgery. I had an RX for oxycodone but never took a pill.

Five weeks ago the same surgeon replaced my right knee. I had been under constant pain and occasional severe pain for nine months. I had no meaningful post surgery pain.

In my opinion the most important thing you can do in preparation is finding the best possible surgeon. I would not look for someone doing posterior as it is an old method. It still works but produces more post surgical pain. Anterior is better BUT there are now newer methods that improve upon Anterior. Probably the two most well known are STAR and Superpath. I had Superpath from the primary developer of that system.

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Hi Mamie, My surgeon was one of the top 5 doctors at the University of Washington Medical center. He is not the same one who did my knee but they work out of the same office. Although my surgeon came highly rated I still had 2 dislocations. Did he use the wrong type or size of replacement? I don't know. I'm looking into that. My concern at this point is staph infection. Why are they so common in hip surgeries? I believe that there is a big problem with the sanitary conditions in hospitals. Every hospital. I've read stories from all over the world. Why is everyone getting Staph? And why hasn't there been a serious investigation - study on why this happens so often. If it was a known fact that people that have open heart surgeries came out with staph infections as often as people who have had hips, knees and shoulders, something would have been done by now. This is not new, this is very common and i'm very surprised that none of the surgeons you spoke to said anything about staph infections. Again, hospitals make money by getting as many surgeries done as possible in a day. I'm certain that it has everything to do with the poor standards regarding cleaning. Hospitals don't care if you wake up with a staph infection. I spent all of Christmas week last year as well as the last week of Feb. this year in the hospital being treated for staph. It doesn't even phase the nurses, they see it everyday. I believe the joint was pretty much gone when I finally had the surgery so I don't know what would have happened. But if I wasn't having any pain I would definately leave it alone. Something else I forgot to mention is all the restrictions you'll face with that new hip. No bending, crossing your legs, leaning to grab something, picking something off the floor etc. I'm only 52 years old and very active. It is extremely difficult trying to go through life remembering not to do this and that because you'll always be at risk of dislocating. And you wanna talk about the worst pain ever? Dislocate a hip and your leg feels like it's on fire and you'll think you're having a heart attack. I spent 6 months worrying about every single move I made after those dislocations. It was exhausting and depressing. When they pulled the final hip out and sent me home they said "you have no restrictions at all". I was floored how could that be? Because there's nothing in there to dislocate! So I walk with a limp and a walker but I can bend, reach and cross my leg. I'll take that over another staph infection. And NO I would never consider another surgeon with more revision experience, it's not the surgeon I'm worried about, it's the filthy conditions in the ER where I contracted the infection that I'm worried about. Please, please,please make sure you have all the facts before you do anything! If you would like to contact me directly you may send me a personal message here on Connect. I would also be happy to talk with you on the phone if you like. Just contact me through a personal message. Robin

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@anonymous122054 hi

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@anonymous122054 hi

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Hello, I want to talk to you. I have had a hip replacement for 4 months.

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Hi Mamie, My surgeon was one of the top 5 doctors at the University of Washington Medical center. He is not the same one who did my knee but they work out of the same office. Although my surgeon came highly rated I still had 2 dislocations. Did he use the wrong type or size of replacement? I don't know. I'm looking into that. My concern at this point is staph infection. Why are they so common in hip surgeries? I believe that there is a big problem with the sanitary conditions in hospitals. Every hospital. I've read stories from all over the world. Why is everyone getting Staph? And why hasn't there been a serious investigation - study on why this happens so often. If it was a known fact that people that have open heart surgeries came out with staph infections as often as people who have had hips, knees and shoulders, something would have been done by now. This is not new, this is very common and i'm very surprised that none of the surgeons you spoke to said anything about staph infections. Again, hospitals make money by getting as many surgeries done as possible in a day. I'm certain that it has everything to do with the poor standards regarding cleaning. Hospitals don't care if you wake up with a staph infection. I spent all of Christmas week last year as well as the last week of Feb. this year in the hospital being treated for staph. It doesn't even phase the nurses, they see it everyday. I believe the joint was pretty much gone when I finally had the surgery so I don't know what would have happened. But if I wasn't having any pain I would definately leave it alone. Something else I forgot to mention is all the restrictions you'll face with that new hip. No bending, crossing your legs, leaning to grab something, picking something off the floor etc. I'm only 52 years old and very active. It is extremely difficult trying to go through life remembering not to do this and that because you'll always be at risk of dislocating. And you wanna talk about the worst pain ever? Dislocate a hip and your leg feels like it's on fire and you'll think you're having a heart attack. I spent 6 months worrying about every single move I made after those dislocations. It was exhausting and depressing. When they pulled the final hip out and sent me home they said "you have no restrictions at all". I was floored how could that be? Because there's nothing in there to dislocate! So I walk with a limp and a walker but I can bend, reach and cross my leg. I'll take that over another staph infection. And NO I would never consider another surgeon with more revision experience, it's not the surgeon I'm worried about, it's the filthy conditions in the ER where I contracted the infection that I'm worried about. Please, please,please make sure you have all the facts before you do anything! If you would like to contact me directly you may send me a personal message here on Connect. I would also be happy to talk with you on the phone if you like. Just contact me through a personal message. Robin

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@anonymous122054 Hello, I want to talk to you. I have had a hip replacement for 4 months.

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THR at Mayo Scottsdale in 2014 gave me my life back! I, too, did not have pain, but I was unable to lift my leg to get in the car.

I was resistant to THR until I saw the X-ray, one joint was perfect, the other looked like a sponge.

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I am 3 weeks out from a THR anterior approach. Minimal pain, meaning no pain meds after day 2 and walking normally without a walker or cane after 3 days. Walking more than a mile and expect to be playing golf again 8 weeks post op. Doctor said ok after 6, but I will be a bit cautious since it’s winter anyway!

I agree with other comments…selection of surgeon is most critical. It helps to have friends who have had the same surgery that you can confer with.

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I had a very positive experience with posterior hip replacement. Although called posterior, my surgeon actually went in through the side if the hip. I chose him because he DID posterior, not anterior and my research indicated the ability to choose from a more varied length of the titanium piece that goes in and so able to have a more custom match to the other leg length. The drawback is not to be able to bend forward past the waist for 12 weeks although my PT agreed that at 11 weeks, I was ready. I had next to no surgical pain afterwards but I had had a lot of pain in my leg for a long time beforehand so the comparison at the very least, was that I was able to walk on that leg with no pain afterwards. I used a scant few of the tramadol they gave me and none of the other heavier pain drugs that had been prescribed for me.

I did NOT have any hip pain either; all my pain was referred pain: my left leg, knee, calf and ankle were in great pain when I walked and I had to walk with a cane and acquired both a small indoor rollator with a basket and a tray (very handy around the house) and a wonderful Trionic Veloped outdoor all terrain rollator so that I could continue to walk my dog with less effort. It was “assumed” that the leg pain was from my back issues. One day, sitting with my feet up on an ottoman, I noticed that my left knee was turned outward and when I couldn’t rotate it, my hip couldn’t rotate, it occurred to me that maybe it was my hip causing problems. That’s when I learned about referred pain. My leg pain was referred hip pain. By the time I saw an orthopedic surgeon and said that I wanted a hip replacement, he gently told me that I really should have had it done a year earlier. I told him that I would have, had I known it was my hip. Incidentally, both my legs match in length now.

I recommend googling Talk to the Docs, orthopedic surgeons, Canadian to watch their very excellent videos on hip replacement. They’ve branched out and cover a lot of medical issues now, bringing in doctors who are experts in those fields. I live in the US but love their Talk to the Docs videos on YouTube.

Even my long suffering physical therapist questioned why I went posterior. Everyone seems to think that anterior is better because it has a faster recovery and you can bend forward past the hip, right away. But as someone mentioned here, having an excellent surgeon is the key. You can also look up pros and cons of anterior vs posterior hip replacement. I know that more surgeons now do anterior but I would have posterior done again in a heartbeat. I do still have walking issues due to my “severely disintegrating spine” as one radiologist called an x-ray. I can walk without pain now that my hip’s been replaced but walking feels like slogging through mud from the pressure on the nerves that go to the legs. So I still use a cane when I go out, or take my small indoor rollator to a place like a mall and I walk my dog a mile or more a day with my Veloped. I can walk normal and even zip around quickly, using a rollator or a grocery cart. I walk well with a cane now too, not having to lean heavily on it. I just need a small assist to take the pressure off those nerves in my spine. I really want to avoid back surgery if at all possible.

Best of luck to you. Surgical outcomes are highly individual and the decision to have surgery can be for many reasons. I do believe that hip replacement, regardless of how it’s done, probably has one of the best outcomes of surgeries one can have. I don’t know anyone who in my cohort of friends who have had one who hasn’t been happy with the outcome.

My hospital had stringent requirements regarding germ control. I showered with a special soap they gave me before coming in. Then before I put on my gown for surgery I had to wipe my entire body with germicidal cloths they gave me. That was just my part but they had so many protocols in place for just me, I imagine that was true for the entire operation. I went home just a few hours after my surgery and had no issues with infection, ever.

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Hoping I will soon be a successful THR story. Excruciating pain for months. Was prescribed tamarol but no dent in the pain. MRI next week to get started on a plan.

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I had a very positive experience with posterior hip replacement. Although called posterior, my surgeon actually went in through the side if the hip. I chose him because he DID posterior, not anterior and my research indicated the ability to choose from a more varied length of the titanium piece that goes in and so able to have a more custom match to the other leg length. The drawback is not to be able to bend forward past the waist for 12 weeks although my PT agreed that at 11 weeks, I was ready. I had next to no surgical pain afterwards but I had had a lot of pain in my leg for a long time beforehand so the comparison at the very least, was that I was able to walk on that leg with no pain afterwards. I used a scant few of the tramadol they gave me and none of the other heavier pain drugs that had been prescribed for me.

I did NOT have any hip pain either; all my pain was referred pain: my left leg, knee, calf and ankle were in great pain when I walked and I had to walk with a cane and acquired both a small indoor rollator with a basket and a tray (very handy around the house) and a wonderful Trionic Veloped outdoor all terrain rollator so that I could continue to walk my dog with less effort. It was “assumed” that the leg pain was from my back issues. One day, sitting with my feet up on an ottoman, I noticed that my left knee was turned outward and when I couldn’t rotate it, my hip couldn’t rotate, it occurred to me that maybe it was my hip causing problems. That’s when I learned about referred pain. My leg pain was referred hip pain. By the time I saw an orthopedic surgeon and said that I wanted a hip replacement, he gently told me that I really should have had it done a year earlier. I told him that I would have, had I known it was my hip. Incidentally, both my legs match in length now.

I recommend googling Talk to the Docs, orthopedic surgeons, Canadian to watch their very excellent videos on hip replacement. They’ve branched out and cover a lot of medical issues now, bringing in doctors who are experts in those fields. I live in the US but love their Talk to the Docs videos on YouTube.

Even my long suffering physical therapist questioned why I went posterior. Everyone seems to think that anterior is better because it has a faster recovery and you can bend forward past the hip, right away. But as someone mentioned here, having an excellent surgeon is the key. You can also look up pros and cons of anterior vs posterior hip replacement. I know that more surgeons now do anterior but I would have posterior done again in a heartbeat. I do still have walking issues due to my “severely disintegrating spine” as one radiologist called an x-ray. I can walk without pain now that my hip’s been replaced but walking feels like slogging through mud from the pressure on the nerves that go to the legs. So I still use a cane when I go out, or take my small indoor rollator to a place like a mall and I walk my dog a mile or more a day with my Veloped. I can walk normal and even zip around quickly, using a rollator or a grocery cart. I walk well with a cane now too, not having to lean heavily on it. I just need a small assist to take the pressure off those nerves in my spine. I really want to avoid back surgery if at all possible.

Best of luck to you. Surgical outcomes are highly individual and the decision to have surgery can be for many reasons. I do believe that hip replacement, regardless of how it’s done, probably has one of the best outcomes of surgeries one can have. I don’t know anyone who in my cohort of friends who have had one who hasn’t been happy with the outcome.

My hospital had stringent requirements regarding germ control. I showered with a special soap they gave me before coming in. Then before I put on my gown for surgery I had to wipe my entire body with germicidal cloths they gave me. That was just my part but they had so many protocols in place for just me, I imagine that was true for the entire operation. I went home just a few hours after my surgery and had no issues with infection, ever.

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@kildaren96 What a great post! My wife just had the exact same procedure (one month ago to the day) under the same referred pain circumstances - she thought it was sciatica or piriformis syndrome.
She even went to a chiropractor - that’s how convinced she was that it was NOT her hip! Even her range of motion was excellent and she was able to use her elliptical machine every day for an hour.
However, the pain worsened and I urged her to have an Xray, which showed bone on bone in the affected hip…totally unexpected!
She had a STAR procedure - lateral/posterior approach at Hospital for Special Surgery in NYC. She had more pain/discomfort that we expected; but since she had ZERO hip pain before the surgery, the comparison is unusual since most people are in terrible pain before the procedure and she was not.
Thanks again for your encouraging post! Best,
Phil

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I had a very positive experience with posterior hip replacement. Although called posterior, my surgeon actually went in through the side if the hip. I chose him because he DID posterior, not anterior and my research indicated the ability to choose from a more varied length of the titanium piece that goes in and so able to have a more custom match to the other leg length. The drawback is not to be able to bend forward past the waist for 12 weeks although my PT agreed that at 11 weeks, I was ready. I had next to no surgical pain afterwards but I had had a lot of pain in my leg for a long time beforehand so the comparison at the very least, was that I was able to walk on that leg with no pain afterwards. I used a scant few of the tramadol they gave me and none of the other heavier pain drugs that had been prescribed for me.

I did NOT have any hip pain either; all my pain was referred pain: my left leg, knee, calf and ankle were in great pain when I walked and I had to walk with a cane and acquired both a small indoor rollator with a basket and a tray (very handy around the house) and a wonderful Trionic Veloped outdoor all terrain rollator so that I could continue to walk my dog with less effort. It was “assumed” that the leg pain was from my back issues. One day, sitting with my feet up on an ottoman, I noticed that my left knee was turned outward and when I couldn’t rotate it, my hip couldn’t rotate, it occurred to me that maybe it was my hip causing problems. That’s when I learned about referred pain. My leg pain was referred hip pain. By the time I saw an orthopedic surgeon and said that I wanted a hip replacement, he gently told me that I really should have had it done a year earlier. I told him that I would have, had I known it was my hip. Incidentally, both my legs match in length now.

I recommend googling Talk to the Docs, orthopedic surgeons, Canadian to watch their very excellent videos on hip replacement. They’ve branched out and cover a lot of medical issues now, bringing in doctors who are experts in those fields. I live in the US but love their Talk to the Docs videos on YouTube.

Even my long suffering physical therapist questioned why I went posterior. Everyone seems to think that anterior is better because it has a faster recovery and you can bend forward past the hip, right away. But as someone mentioned here, having an excellent surgeon is the key. You can also look up pros and cons of anterior vs posterior hip replacement. I know that more surgeons now do anterior but I would have posterior done again in a heartbeat. I do still have walking issues due to my “severely disintegrating spine” as one radiologist called an x-ray. I can walk without pain now that my hip’s been replaced but walking feels like slogging through mud from the pressure on the nerves that go to the legs. So I still use a cane when I go out, or take my small indoor rollator to a place like a mall and I walk my dog a mile or more a day with my Veloped. I can walk normal and even zip around quickly, using a rollator or a grocery cart. I walk well with a cane now too, not having to lean heavily on it. I just need a small assist to take the pressure off those nerves in my spine. I really want to avoid back surgery if at all possible.

Best of luck to you. Surgical outcomes are highly individual and the decision to have surgery can be for many reasons. I do believe that hip replacement, regardless of how it’s done, probably has one of the best outcomes of surgeries one can have. I don’t know anyone who in my cohort of friends who have had one who hasn’t been happy with the outcome.

My hospital had stringent requirements regarding germ control. I showered with a special soap they gave me before coming in. Then before I put on my gown for surgery I had to wipe my entire body with germicidal cloths they gave me. That was just my part but they had so many protocols in place for just me, I imagine that was true for the entire operation. I went home just a few hours after my surgery and had no issues with infection, ever.

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@kildaren96

We each must do what we think is best for us. I opted for a surgeon who is the primary inventor of the superpath method which is supposed to be (and I believe is) a successor to and improvement to the anterior approach. But in chatting with him one day, he thinks the most important criteria is extensive experience.

If it came down to a decision between a skilled and experienced surgeon doing posterior or a surgeon doing Superpath who has only done ten of them, I would opt for the posterior method and so would my incredibly skilled surgeon. But there is little reason if one's insurance allows it not to be greedy and get a surgeon who has the experience and is using the newer methods.

Nice post.

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