Interesting study coverage from Wired magazine, of all places

Posted by sanDGuy @sandguy, Nov 17 6:41pm

Of course, Wired tends to be concerned with technology primarily and I think I've subscribed since their earliest beginnings,
but here's their coverage of this new study being conducted at Scripp Research looking for subjects to try out a GLP-1 drug as a possible treatment due to its anti-inflammatory properties:
https://www.wired.com/story/weight-loss-drug-zepbound-is-being-tested-as-a-treatment-for-long-covid/
If many people find they're blocked by a paywall, please comment and I'll just pirate post the text below.

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I used to subscribe. Was only able to read intro. Thanks for the info, even though couldn't access full article. Interesting premise.

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I wonder if you can volunteer to participate as a patient in this study? I have had Long Covid since May of 2024, documented by Mayo Clinic in Rochester.

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I just signed up up for the study at Scripps La Jolla...they are in early stages and actively recruiting Long COVID patients. You must provide proof of a Long COVID diagnosis and proof of identity to start - followed by lots of questionnaires that you can submit as you can. They send you the Zepbound and a fitness tracker...everything is done remotely. You can apply here and press the Long COVID Treatment Trial button:
https://longcovid.scripps.edu/

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I used to subscribe. Was only able to read intro. Thanks for the info, even though couldn't access full article. Interesting premise.

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@klf58
Sorry about that...
Here is the full text (with apologies to Wired:

Nov 14, 2025
Weight-Loss Drug Zepbound Is Being Tested as a Treatment for Long Covid

Obesity wonder drugs Wegovy and Zepbound are already showing that they can reduce the risk of cardiovascular and chronic kidney disease in addition to helping people lose weight. Now, a US-wide trial will test whether tirzepatide, the active ingredient in Zepbound, may be an effective treatment for people with long Covid.

Part of a class of drugs known as GLP-1s, tirzepatide acts on receptors in the gut and the brain to regulate appetite. As a result, people shed pounds by eating less. But decreased body weight doesn’t fully explain the positive effects on the heart and kidney. Mounting evidence suggests that the drugs have a broad anti-inflammatory effect on the body—a mechanism that’s of interest for treating long Covid.
As many as 20 million people in the US have experienced long Covid, a chronic condition that lasts for at least three months after an initial infection. While more than 200 symptoms of long Covid have been documented, some of the most common include coughing, shortness of breath, brain fog, fatigue, mood changes, trouble sleeping, and body aches.

Scientists still don’t fully understand how and why long Covid occurs, but they’ve found persistent inflammation in many patients. This chronic inflammation may be caused by lingering traces of virus in the body or by misdirected antibodies, known as autoantibodies, that attack a person’s own cells and tissues. The hope is that tirzepatide could tamp down this inflammation to improve patients’ symptoms.

“The rationale for a GLP-1 drug is its powerful body-wide and brain anti-inflammatory properties,” says Eric Topol, a cardiologist and the director of the La Jolla, California-based Scripps Research Translational Institute, which is sponsoring the trial.

Scripps researchers are recruiting 1,000 people across the country who are 18 years of age or older and have medical documentation of long Covid. Unlike most medical studies, which typically require multiple in-person visits, the Scripps trial is fully remote. Participants will be randomized to receive either tirzepatide or a placebo by mail and will take it for a year. They’ll receive a fitness tracker so that researchers can measure their step count, an important indicator of fatigue. Participants will also get a smart scale and will weigh in regularly. Since GLP-1s are used for weight management, study investigators want to make sure participants don’t lose too much weight during the trial.

Julia Moore Vogel, coprincipal investigator of the trial who herself has long Covid, says the remote design of the trial was intentional. “For the long Covid population, it’s so crucial, because if you’re requiring people to come into a clinic, you’re systematically excluding the most severely affected folks who are housebound or bedbound. It was really important to us to make sure that those people are included.”

In-person drug trials for long Covid have struggled to recruit patients because the debilitating nature of the condition makes it difficult for patients to travel for studies.

A lack of investment from the pharmaceutical industry has also stalled research. And despite a hefty $1.8 billion investment into long Covid research under the Biden administration, progress on finding effective treatments has been slow. Getting vaccinated remains the best way to prevent long Covid, and studies have found that taking the antiviral Paxlovid during an infection can also reduce the risk of developing it.

“There is an urgent need for investment in long Covid clinical trials, and in decentralized clinical trials like this one in particular,” says Hannah Davis, cofounder of the Patient-Led Research Collaborative, a long Covid research and advocacy group. “Tirzepatide has shown to have anti-inflammatory, metabolic, and cardiovascular effects that could be promising to long Covid patients.”

One published study found that in 47 people with mast cell activation syndrome, or MCAS, a condition in which white blood cells release inflammatory chemicals, 89 percent benefited from a GLP-1, especially at low doses. The findings are relevant for long Covid, which shares many symptoms with MCAS.

David Kaufman, a private practice physician who specializes in MCAS, chronic fatigue syndrome, autoimmune diseases, and chronic infections, has been treating long Covid patients with small doses of tirzepatide at his clinic, the Center for Complex Diseases, in Seattle and Mountain View, California.

He started prescribing GLP-1s off-label after some of his patients started taking the drugs for weight loss but were also reporting less fatigue. “I want to be cautious. This doesn’t cure everything. What it does is it seems to move the needle so patients can become more functional, but they may still need some fine tuning with the other medication,” he tells WIRED.

To avoid unwanted weight loss and the gastrointestinal side effects that come with GLP-1s, Kaufman typically starts patients out on one-tenth of the standard starting dose of 2.5 milligrams. He currently has 40 to 50 long Covid patients who are taking microdoses of tirzepatide. At a long Covid workshop in September, Kaufman presented his and other providers’ experience treating more than 350 patients with microdosing. They have found a 60 to 90 percent decrease in fatigue, brain fog, pain, and MCAS symptoms.

The Scripps trial, meanwhile, is using the standard 2.5 milligrams of tirzepatide as the starting dose. An NIH-sponsored trial also plans to test a GLP-1 drug for long Covid.

Although GLP-1s are showing knock-on benefits for a variety of symptoms and conditions, there’s reason for caution. Given the spectrum of symptoms associated with long Covid, there’s unlikely to be a one-size-fits-all treatment.

By Emily Mullin, a staff writer at WIRED, covering biotechnology.

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I just signed up up for the study at Scripps La Jolla...they are in early stages and actively recruiting Long COVID patients. You must provide proof of a Long COVID diagnosis and proof of identity to start - followed by lots of questionnaires that you can submit as you can. They send you the Zepbound and a fitness tracker...everything is done remotely. You can apply here and press the Long COVID Treatment Trial button:
https://longcovid.scripps.edu/

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Yes, I had begun my application online, despite living about 20 miles away from Scripps, and then saw the requirement for proof of LC. It's taken three days, but finally received that from my PCP.
I'm reconsidering whether I want to participate, though, because, as a placebo-controlled study, sensibly enough of course, there's a 50% chance I might not be on any drug for a year. I might have a good chance of convincing my medical team to just prescribe it for me.
In the meantime, though, I have started taking Metformin which, while not classed as a GLP-1 drug, does have some similar properties (plus my wife, for whom it was prescribed, somehow has a ton of excess pills. Shhh! Don't tell anybody!)
Both Metformin and these other drugs do seem to exhibit significant anti-inflammatory properties, and it seems as though more benefits from their use is increasingly being uncovered (possible postponement of dementia, for example!).
Some studies have shown that people on Metformin, specifically, who caught Covid-19 were less likely to go on to develop LC. I'm unsure of the extent it is actually being used as a treatment for LC, though, and need some further research.
Come to think of it, there are a few quite active groups similar to this one on Facebook, so, despite my general aversion ot social media, I may just venture on there to see if people have tried it, and will report back.

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@klf58
Sorry about that...
Here is the full text (with apologies to Wired:

Nov 14, 2025
Weight-Loss Drug Zepbound Is Being Tested as a Treatment for Long Covid

Obesity wonder drugs Wegovy and Zepbound are already showing that they can reduce the risk of cardiovascular and chronic kidney disease in addition to helping people lose weight. Now, a US-wide trial will test whether tirzepatide, the active ingredient in Zepbound, may be an effective treatment for people with long Covid.

Part of a class of drugs known as GLP-1s, tirzepatide acts on receptors in the gut and the brain to regulate appetite. As a result, people shed pounds by eating less. But decreased body weight doesn’t fully explain the positive effects on the heart and kidney. Mounting evidence suggests that the drugs have a broad anti-inflammatory effect on the body—a mechanism that’s of interest for treating long Covid.
As many as 20 million people in the US have experienced long Covid, a chronic condition that lasts for at least three months after an initial infection. While more than 200 symptoms of long Covid have been documented, some of the most common include coughing, shortness of breath, brain fog, fatigue, mood changes, trouble sleeping, and body aches.

Scientists still don’t fully understand how and why long Covid occurs, but they’ve found persistent inflammation in many patients. This chronic inflammation may be caused by lingering traces of virus in the body or by misdirected antibodies, known as autoantibodies, that attack a person’s own cells and tissues. The hope is that tirzepatide could tamp down this inflammation to improve patients’ symptoms.

“The rationale for a GLP-1 drug is its powerful body-wide and brain anti-inflammatory properties,” says Eric Topol, a cardiologist and the director of the La Jolla, California-based Scripps Research Translational Institute, which is sponsoring the trial.

Scripps researchers are recruiting 1,000 people across the country who are 18 years of age or older and have medical documentation of long Covid. Unlike most medical studies, which typically require multiple in-person visits, the Scripps trial is fully remote. Participants will be randomized to receive either tirzepatide or a placebo by mail and will take it for a year. They’ll receive a fitness tracker so that researchers can measure their step count, an important indicator of fatigue. Participants will also get a smart scale and will weigh in regularly. Since GLP-1s are used for weight management, study investigators want to make sure participants don’t lose too much weight during the trial.

Julia Moore Vogel, coprincipal investigator of the trial who herself has long Covid, says the remote design of the trial was intentional. “For the long Covid population, it’s so crucial, because if you’re requiring people to come into a clinic, you’re systematically excluding the most severely affected folks who are housebound or bedbound. It was really important to us to make sure that those people are included.”

In-person drug trials for long Covid have struggled to recruit patients because the debilitating nature of the condition makes it difficult for patients to travel for studies.

A lack of investment from the pharmaceutical industry has also stalled research. And despite a hefty $1.8 billion investment into long Covid research under the Biden administration, progress on finding effective treatments has been slow. Getting vaccinated remains the best way to prevent long Covid, and studies have found that taking the antiviral Paxlovid during an infection can also reduce the risk of developing it.

“There is an urgent need for investment in long Covid clinical trials, and in decentralized clinical trials like this one in particular,” says Hannah Davis, cofounder of the Patient-Led Research Collaborative, a long Covid research and advocacy group. “Tirzepatide has shown to have anti-inflammatory, metabolic, and cardiovascular effects that could be promising to long Covid patients.”

One published study found that in 47 people with mast cell activation syndrome, or MCAS, a condition in which white blood cells release inflammatory chemicals, 89 percent benefited from a GLP-1, especially at low doses. The findings are relevant for long Covid, which shares many symptoms with MCAS.

David Kaufman, a private practice physician who specializes in MCAS, chronic fatigue syndrome, autoimmune diseases, and chronic infections, has been treating long Covid patients with small doses of tirzepatide at his clinic, the Center for Complex Diseases, in Seattle and Mountain View, California.

He started prescribing GLP-1s off-label after some of his patients started taking the drugs for weight loss but were also reporting less fatigue. “I want to be cautious. This doesn’t cure everything. What it does is it seems to move the needle so patients can become more functional, but they may still need some fine tuning with the other medication,” he tells WIRED.

To avoid unwanted weight loss and the gastrointestinal side effects that come with GLP-1s, Kaufman typically starts patients out on one-tenth of the standard starting dose of 2.5 milligrams. He currently has 40 to 50 long Covid patients who are taking microdoses of tirzepatide. At a long Covid workshop in September, Kaufman presented his and other providers’ experience treating more than 350 patients with microdosing. They have found a 60 to 90 percent decrease in fatigue, brain fog, pain, and MCAS symptoms.

The Scripps trial, meanwhile, is using the standard 2.5 milligrams of tirzepatide as the starting dose. An NIH-sponsored trial also plans to test a GLP-1 drug for long Covid.

Although GLP-1s are showing knock-on benefits for a variety of symptoms and conditions, there’s reason for caution. Given the spectrum of symptoms associated with long Covid, there’s unlikely to be a one-size-fits-all treatment.

By Emily Mullin, a staff writer at WIRED, covering biotechnology.

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@sandguy
Thank you for sharing. Super interesting and promising. I wouldn't mind weight loss effect!

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I just signed up up for the study at Scripps La Jolla...they are in early stages and actively recruiting Long COVID patients. You must provide proof of a Long COVID diagnosis and proof of identity to start - followed by lots of questionnaires that you can submit as you can. They send you the Zepbound and a fitness tracker...everything is done remotely. You can apply here and press the Long COVID Treatment Trial button:
https://longcovid.scripps.edu/

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@vostie thank you for sharing this!

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@suefish
Family members not being helpful at all! I don’t pay any more attention to them.

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@vostie
Yes, I had begun my application online, despite living about 20 miles away from Scripps, and then saw the requirement for proof of LC. It's taken three days, but finally received that from my PCP.
I'm reconsidering whether I want to participate, though, because, as a placebo-controlled study, sensibly enough of course, there's a 50% chance I might not be on any drug for a year. I might have a good chance of convincing my medical team to just prescribe it for me.
In the meantime, though, I have started taking Metformin which, while not classed as a GLP-1 drug, does have some similar properties (plus my wife, for whom it was prescribed, somehow has a ton of excess pills. Shhh! Don't tell anybody!)
Both Metformin and these other drugs do seem to exhibit significant anti-inflammatory properties, and it seems as though more benefits from their use is increasingly being uncovered (possible postponement of dementia, for example!).
Some studies have shown that people on Metformin, specifically, who caught Covid-19 were less likely to go on to develop LC. I'm unsure of the extent it is actually being used as a treatment for LC, though, and need some further research.
Come to think of it, there are a few quite active groups similar to this one on Facebook, so, despite my general aversion ot social media, I may just venture on there to see if people have tried it, and will report back.

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@sandguy There's an org for that: Metformin. https://cov19longhaulfoundation.org/

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@pattig09
Thanks for that! Plus, there's a pretty cute cartoon at the top of that page.
I've gone ahead and have been taking the Metformim--1000mg. daily--for about a week now, and will report back if I feel any effects (none so far).

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