All pain gone after one "test"

Posted by mrmik @mrmik, Nov 9 12:20am

Woke up for the first time in years WITHOUT PAIN
My friend has always told me, "If you wake up one day without pain, you know you for sure you're dead!"
Fortunately it was not true.

I have suffered from Chronic pain in my lower back for the last 6 years which started after I was diagnosed with Lyme disease. Initially, Steroid injections in the back helped.
After a few years, the injections eventually stopped working after a few months.
Then I was treated with RFA (Radio Frequency Ablation of the Medial Nerve)First with a hot needle (90 deg C) in 2 locations which lasted for 2 months.
Secondly with a cold needle (60 deg C) in 8 locations. But now the pain changed to a burning sensation "in a wide belt" inside my lower back for 4 months.
After that I have been in pain constantly with varying intensity plus feeling inflammation in all parts of my body.
Therefore I have been "treating" myself using finely ground Turmeric, Cinnamon, Ginger, Vanilla, black pepper and honey as a thick slurry. Taken as a tablespoon every evening before bedtime as it is supposed to be good against inflammation. I have felt some relief but nothing significant.

NOW
As a Chemical Engineer I started looking at the nature of inflammation and compared it to the active ingredients in my cocktail. And it turned out that it should work.

HOWEVER
Without getting too technical, the inflamed areas were in zones of a fatty nature which are hydrophobic (repels water - like water droplets on a goose)
At the same time, the active ingredients in my cocktail (except for honey) are also hydrophobic.
SO the cocktail had little effect because they were not properly dissolved and released as the stomach fluids are the opposite of hydrophobic = hydrophilic.
In other words the active ingredients went down the toilet.

Alcohol
It turned out that the active ingredients in my cocktail powders would easily dissolve in Alcohol.

So to make a long story short
I dissolved one teaspoon of each spice (but only a 1/8 teaspoon of black pepper) with a table spoon of honey in a double shot of Rum.
Stirred it for some minutes and enjoyed it.
The next morning; I WAS PAIN FREE!
I was laying in bed looking up at the ceiling enjoying every minute of it.
After going for a swim in the afternoon, I began to feel slight pain or rather tension but only 10% of usual.

The day after (at the time of this writing) I have only minimum pain, or rather a tension in my back.
I realize my test only represents one datapoint, but it is a good start with an unbelievable outcome.

MY NEXT APPROACH
I have already made a bottle of slurry (same ingredients) but using only enough alcohol to make it flow like a thick slurry for the purpose of limiting the alcohol intake.
I plan to take one tablespoon of slurry in the evening before bedtime.

DISCLOSURE
I am 6 feet, 216 lbs. and enjoyed not only one but 3 cocktails that evening. So the medical term could suggest I was under anesthesia when I went to bed (in leigh man terms: DRUNK)
I am not suggesting anyone do as I have done, and also check the side effects of the spices in the cocktail.

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@mrmik That is an amazing story. I am sure that many commenters here on Mayo Clinic Connect are racing out to their local liquor store to pick up a few bottle of rum. LOL. Seriously, I am impressed at how you tackled this problem from a scientific approach. What was your pain levels before and after taking your "cocktail"? You are spot on when you said that if most of us here were to wake up pain-free and believe that we must be dead. May you continue to remain pain-free!

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I am glad you've found a natural slurry to make. I make a similar slurry, no vanilla, or alcohol, and take 12 a teaspoon every morning. I've had PSP for 5 years, 10 months and am still ambulating on my own, no backward falls yet, and can still see fine. Hoping my natural stuff keeps working for many years to come. PSP is deadly and there are no medications for it. I haven't had any side effects cause they are natural. Gotta go keep on keeping on and good luck to you too being 90% pain free!!

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Oh that should have been 1/2, half a teaspoon every morning!!

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@mrmik I meant to ask: how much of each spice/ingredient did you use in your slurry? Thanks.

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What a fantastic outcome! Congratulations! I’ve been struggling with chronic pain in my thoracic and lumbar spine and hips for about seven years. Nonstop, relentless pain that even after steroid injections, RFAs, epidurals, and very strong prescription pain medications I’ve ended up at the ER more times than I can remember. I’m legally disabled, depressed, home bound, and in tears most days because of the excruciating pain and the loss of having an actual life. Simply put: devastating. I have tried adding turmeric, circumin, black pepper, moringa extract, cinnamon, ginger, etc… to my morning meds every day but nothing has helped with all my inflammation. I can’t take NSAIDS because I’m prone to gastric ulcers. After reading your post, I realized I had never considered how my body absorbs the supplements. I hadn’t considered the hydrophobic/ hydrophilic properties. I’m going to try your method and see what happens. At this point, I honestly feel as though I have nothing to lose but everything to gain if it helps! So… thank you for your post. I’ll let you know what happens.

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I am glad you've found a natural slurry to make. I make a similar slurry, no vanilla, or alcohol, and take 12 a teaspoon every morning. I've had PSP for 5 years, 10 months and am still ambulating on my own, no backward falls yet, and can still see fine. Hoping my natural stuff keeps working for many years to come. PSP is deadly and there are no medications for it. I haven't had any side effects cause they are natural. Gotta go keep on keeping on and good luck to you too being 90% pain free!!

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Keep it up, but look at surface characteristics of the target areas of pain and the the effectiveness of the extraction of the active substances to optimize the effect (s).

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@mrmik I meant to ask: how much of each spice/ingredient did you use in your slurry? Thanks.

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One teaspoon each, but only 1/8 of black pepper (also finely ground)

The black pepper amplifies the effect of the Tumaric by 2000%

DON'T LEAVE IT OUT

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What a fantastic outcome! Congratulations! I’ve been struggling with chronic pain in my thoracic and lumbar spine and hips for about seven years. Nonstop, relentless pain that even after steroid injections, RFAs, epidurals, and very strong prescription pain medications I’ve ended up at the ER more times than I can remember. I’m legally disabled, depressed, home bound, and in tears most days because of the excruciating pain and the loss of having an actual life. Simply put: devastating. I have tried adding turmeric, circumin, black pepper, moringa extract, cinnamon, ginger, etc… to my morning meds every day but nothing has helped with all my inflammation. I can’t take NSAIDS because I’m prone to gastric ulcers. After reading your post, I realized I had never considered how my body absorbs the supplements. I hadn’t considered the hydrophobic/ hydrophilic properties. I’m going to try your method and see what happens. At this point, I honestly feel as though I have nothing to lose but everything to gain if it helps! So… thank you for your post. I’ll let you know what happens.

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