Esophagus issues

Posted by Brie @brie87144, Mar 17, 2017

Hello I'm not sure this is where I should ask or not but I need help understanding what all this is telling me and if anyone knows possible treatments or outcomes. I'll give a little bit of history. I've only had what I know as swallowing issues for the last 4-5 months at most. Sometimes I can't even get things to go down into my throat at all, other times I can but whatever it is just gets stuck and that's consistent. I've had chronic heartburn since 2006 ish and been taking Prilosec and or 300mg of Zantac daily since. Which neither of these mess seem to help. But they help better than anything else I've tried. I also have a condition called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome which is a collagen disorder, and I have type 3 (hyper mobile) with mild over lapping of type 4 (vascular). I also have POTs and other autonomic dysfunction. With that being said, I was sent to GI for a consult and so far have had the pudding esophageal motility test, and the Barium swallow X-ray. They have both come back abnormal. The esophageal motility test says:

Esophageal Motility
IMPRESSION: Esophageal transit is normal for water but delayed at mid esophagus for thin and thick semisolid boluses.
FINDINGS: Esophageal transit scintigraphy performed per protocol. Graphic processed scintigraphic display reviewed in addition to the dynamic imaging.
WATER BOLUS:  The water bolus passes normally into the stomach within 10 seconds.
BOLUS 1, THIN SEMISOLID: There is hang-up of the thin semisolid bolus in the mid esophagus and at the junction of the mid and lower third, with the tracer in the mid esophagus clearing after 25 seconds and the residual activity in the distal third of the esophagus clearing x 45 s.

BOLUS 2, THICK SEMISOLID: The thick semisolid bolus shows considerable retention in the mid esophagus which predominantly clears after the second dry swallow at 40 seconds.
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The Barium swallow X-ray says:
Esophagus
Moderate esophageal dysmotility is present with interrupted primary peristaltic wave, intermittent ineffective secondary peristaltic waves which are nonpropulsive. Subsequent peristaltic waves then stripped the barium bolus normally.

There is a small hiatal hernia present with free spontaneous gastroesophageal reflux noted with esophageal distention to the thoracic inlet. There is however no ulceration, stricture, or mass present. Barium pill was administered, which passed freely through the GE junction into the stomach.
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My Drs impressions says esophageal motility disorder with cervical and esophageal components. 

My question is what is this all telling me. I keep looking things up but then get super confused and mixed up. I still have to go back for a upper endoscopy, an esophageal manometry, neuro speech assessment, and a video X-ray barium swallow. I can't find anything on the speech assessment. And I'm not understanding why I have to repeat the barium test? Since medicine isn't working what are some of the treatments or fixes to any of this. Can my esophagus just die? What happens if it stops working all together?

Sorry for the long message. I don't live near Mayo and have to travel to get there so I don't get a lot of time with the drs to ask these questions. They are just more concerned getting the tests done before they make sense of it to me it seems, and I am super lost and confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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@danybegood1

@brie87144, Keep looking Brie. You're being proactive with your doctors. I hate the clinic now where i go. Ive been going there for 22 years. Now my cardiac doctors are in the same clinic. They must hate my guts when i try to be proactive, or maybe im doing it wrong. I do lots of research online and ive started trying to diagnose myself. hahaha So i ask the dr why dont we take a hep-c test? And she says well we did one in 2003 and if you havent had a transfusion or used needles i probably dont have hepc. So i say, no but ive had a million blood draws since then. I also said no disparagement to your clinic. But hepc was poo pooed by my dr, also dont thinkd i have lupus, which i had a test for in 2009. What? I cant have it at a later date? And ive also found out that you dont have to have the butterfly rash on your face. You can have the rash anywhere. They must think im a hypochondriac, or i want to be sick. No, no, no. I want to be better because my grown kids still need me so i have to find out whats going on with me so it can be treated. I have chosen new drs because of their attitude towards me or mistakes they have made in my care. A dr i had in 2003 prescribed quinine for my restless legs. I developed thrombocytopenia purpura. I had nausea, vomiting, and my body was beginning to bleed. Im not mad at my dr for this, im mad bc it took them 3 months to find it. My platelets were down to 5000 and nobody found it. I remember the phone ringing as i got back from a dr visit, Judy you have to go to the hospital now. The dr on call at the hospital saved my life, and whoever saw my platelet level. Im po that i have to be my own medical detective. The drs should be the ones to do this. Im so sorry for this long post which really turned into venting. Keep at it Brie. Remember, you are the best friend you will ever have. Love, Judy

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @brie87144,

I see that Teresa, @hopeful33250 has given you some great information; thanks so much Teresa. I wanted to welcome you to Connect as well, and introduce you to a few members who have discussed some similar symptoms.
@amoll157, @dhuffman, @ladawki143, @lee28, @sfrigon, @klsxoxo, @tammyjean, @tgirl, @fjg827, @jimhd, @ryman, @margo42, @dash99999, will you join me in welcoming Brie, and adding your thoughts and experiences?

You may also wish to view this discussion on Connect: Achalasia, http://mayocl.in/2n7zND4, where you can read about a recent update from Mayo Clinic on Peroral endoscopic tumor resection, or POET, which has been been shown to achieve very successful outcomes in the treatment of esophageal dysmotility. Here's a direct link, too: http://mayocl.in/2mxsMJ7

It must be quite worrisome to undergo all these tests, but according to what I found from a bit of research, the video barium test and endoscopy will look at the 'body' and muscle of the esophagus, whereas the neuro-speech assessment and the manometry will determine how well you can swallow water, and whether that affects your speech.
I would encourage you to view the link that @hopeful33250 has given, which describes the test in detail.

@brie87144, do you have any suggestions or insight for Connect members who share some of these symptoms? Did you have to make major dietary changes?

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@squaredancer Sorry I missed this earlier, going back to mayo. I have appointments the 24-28th of April. They have to squish them altogether since I live out of state.

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@danybegood1

@brie87144, Keep looking Brie. You're being proactive with your doctors. I hate the clinic now where i go. Ive been going there for 22 years. Now my cardiac doctors are in the same clinic. They must hate my guts when i try to be proactive, or maybe im doing it wrong. I do lots of research online and ive started trying to diagnose myself. hahaha So i ask the dr why dont we take a hep-c test? And she says well we did one in 2003 and if you havent had a transfusion or used needles i probably dont have hepc. So i say, no but ive had a million blood draws since then. I also said no disparagement to your clinic. But hepc was poo pooed by my dr, also dont thinkd i have lupus, which i had a test for in 2009. What? I cant have it at a later date? And ive also found out that you dont have to have the butterfly rash on your face. You can have the rash anywhere. They must think im a hypochondriac, or i want to be sick. No, no, no. I want to be better because my grown kids still need me so i have to find out whats going on with me so it can be treated. I have chosen new drs because of their attitude towards me or mistakes they have made in my care. A dr i had in 2003 prescribed quinine for my restless legs. I developed thrombocytopenia purpura. I had nausea, vomiting, and my body was beginning to bleed. Im not mad at my dr for this, im mad bc it took them 3 months to find it. My platelets were down to 5000 and nobody found it. I remember the phone ringing as i got back from a dr visit, Judy you have to go to the hospital now. The dr on call at the hospital saved my life, and whoever saw my platelet level. Im po that i have to be my own medical detective. The drs should be the ones to do this. Im so sorry for this long post which really turned into venting. Keep at it Brie. Remember, you are the best friend you will ever have. Love, Judy

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@danybegood1 wow you have had a rough road. Your doctors sound just as bad as he ones here in Albuquerque. I was divorced by 2 doctors who didn't have time for a patient like me here at home. The first 6 months with mayo they kept telling me maybe iall my issues are psychological. I'm probably the most annoying dreaded patient out there lol. I won't take no for an answer and won't let them push me off to Psych when I had a perfectly normal psych exam. I've definitely learned to speak up and not let them push me off. Especially cause I am traveling there every month and it's been expensive, that's not even including my copay and deductibles noticed that when I annoy my consultative medicine doctor, he gives me whatever test or referral I'm badgering him for lol. He also doesn't like that I am well versed on so many things medically because he can't just ramble off something I don't understand and be okay with it. If I don't understand I make him explain it. Whatever works. I hope you find answers

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@danybegood1

@brie87144, Keep looking Brie. You're being proactive with your doctors. I hate the clinic now where i go. Ive been going there for 22 years. Now my cardiac doctors are in the same clinic. They must hate my guts when i try to be proactive, or maybe im doing it wrong. I do lots of research online and ive started trying to diagnose myself. hahaha So i ask the dr why dont we take a hep-c test? And she says well we did one in 2003 and if you havent had a transfusion or used needles i probably dont have hepc. So i say, no but ive had a million blood draws since then. I also said no disparagement to your clinic. But hepc was poo pooed by my dr, also dont thinkd i have lupus, which i had a test for in 2009. What? I cant have it at a later date? And ive also found out that you dont have to have the butterfly rash on your face. You can have the rash anywhere. They must think im a hypochondriac, or i want to be sick. No, no, no. I want to be better because my grown kids still need me so i have to find out whats going on with me so it can be treated. I have chosen new drs because of their attitude towards me or mistakes they have made in my care. A dr i had in 2003 prescribed quinine for my restless legs. I developed thrombocytopenia purpura. I had nausea, vomiting, and my body was beginning to bleed. Im not mad at my dr for this, im mad bc it took them 3 months to find it. My platelets were down to 5000 and nobody found it. I remember the phone ringing as i got back from a dr visit, Judy you have to go to the hospital now. The dr on call at the hospital saved my life, and whoever saw my platelet level. Im po that i have to be my own medical detective. The drs should be the ones to do this. Im so sorry for this long post which really turned into venting. Keep at it Brie. Remember, you are the best friend you will ever have. Love, Judy

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@87144, Brie? You go girl! Yeah, i had a dr tell me my symptoms were all in my head when i started itching. What a jerk he was, unfortunately we have them in all walks of life. Ive had a few docs that were pretty weird. It couldnt possibly be me. Ok this little computer is supposed to catch punctuation for me. Oh well, i cant be bothered. You keep at the docs and i will too. Im down to emailing them and suggesting which blood tests i need. Hepatitis, lupus anyone?
Sincerely, Judy

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@danybegood1

@brie87144, Keep looking Brie. You're being proactive with your doctors. I hate the clinic now where i go. Ive been going there for 22 years. Now my cardiac doctors are in the same clinic. They must hate my guts when i try to be proactive, or maybe im doing it wrong. I do lots of research online and ive started trying to diagnose myself. hahaha So i ask the dr why dont we take a hep-c test? And she says well we did one in 2003 and if you havent had a transfusion or used needles i probably dont have hepc. So i say, no but ive had a million blood draws since then. I also said no disparagement to your clinic. But hepc was poo pooed by my dr, also dont thinkd i have lupus, which i had a test for in 2009. What? I cant have it at a later date? And ive also found out that you dont have to have the butterfly rash on your face. You can have the rash anywhere. They must think im a hypochondriac, or i want to be sick. No, no, no. I want to be better because my grown kids still need me so i have to find out whats going on with me so it can be treated. I have chosen new drs because of their attitude towards me or mistakes they have made in my care. A dr i had in 2003 prescribed quinine for my restless legs. I developed thrombocytopenia purpura. I had nausea, vomiting, and my body was beginning to bleed. Im not mad at my dr for this, im mad bc it took them 3 months to find it. My platelets were down to 5000 and nobody found it. I remember the phone ringing as i got back from a dr visit, Judy you have to go to the hospital now. The dr on call at the hospital saved my life, and whoever saw my platelet level. Im po that i have to be my own medical detective. The drs should be the ones to do this. Im so sorry for this long post which really turned into venting. Keep at it Brie. Remember, you are the best friend you will ever have. Love, Judy

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@brie87144

Let me tell you that having mental health issues on top of a whole list of illnesses and problems makes for a difficult time working with doctors in various specialties. My pain specialist has been an exception. Neurologists - I've been through 4 or 5, with no noticeable help. The last one looked like a really good one, but he moved a few weeks after I saw him. Dysphagia - I had an esophagram two years ago, and I just now got my pcp to do something about the findings. I have an appointment with a speech therapist, and I don't really know where to go from there. When eating became an effort, it became less of a pleasure. Beside esophageal dysmotility, I'm trying to deal with idiopathic peripheral neuropathy, arthritis, and depression, anxiety disorder, PTSD and suicidal ideation. Only God knows which one will be addressed first, and how addressing that will affect the other challenges. I try to live one day at a time, learn what lessons I can from the past, and anticipate improvement however it shows up. My foundation is God, who is love, and who loves me, and cares about what's going on in my life, and that whatever this life brings, I have a firm assurance of an eternity spent in His presence. Having a brain that isn't working right screws with all of my values and beliefs, but I'm alive today because of the foundation I have.

Jim

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@hopeful33250

Hello @brie87144 Thank you for your recent post about your swallowing issues. I can understand your frustration in having difficulties and being given a lot of information that is not easy to understand. That is most frustrating! We have a number of members of Mayo Connect who have discussed swallowing problems, so as you read through some of their posts you might be helped a little. As Mayo Connect is an online patient support community, we are not able to make diagnoses nor to interpret test results. That must be left to your doctor. From what you have said in your post, your doctor is not able to tell you more until he/she does some more testing, which means more waiting (that must be why they call us patients - we need a lot of patience!). However, I urge you to hang in there and read some of the posts here about swallowing problems and see if your doctor or his nurse may be able to help you sort out some of the information that they have obtained so far. Here is some information from Mayo's website about dysphagia, that might be helpult to you in the meantime http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dysphagia/basics/definition/con-2003344. Keep in touch and let us know of your progress. Teresa

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I came across this article for those with Esophagus issues.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/876444?src=wnl_edit_tpal&uac=202198MY
Phil

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@kanaazpereira

Welcome to Connect, @marksnow. Thank you for joining this discussion and for sharing information. May I ask, when are you scheduled to have the surgery?

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Hi @marksnow,

We'd love to hear from you; how are you doing after the Fundoplication Surgery?

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@danybegood1, @brie87144

It's been awhile, and a lot has happened since March. For my terrible pain from peripheral neuropathy, I did a trial spinal cord stimulator implant and was approved for the permanent implant, which was done in May. My feet still burn and hurt, but it's much, much better. I had cataract surgeries on both eyes, which has greatly improved my vision. I've had an endoscopy, a colonoscopy, an x-ray swallowing test, and a scope to watch the back of my tongue during swallowing. I am seeing a speech therapist, who's giving me exercises to strengthen my tongue so it performs its job effectively. The ENT doctor found that the back of my tongue isn't strong enough to create sufficient pressure in my esophagus to propel the bolus through, and also found that it has choreiform movement. That means that it doesn't assemble the bolus the way it should, so food stays in my mouth longer than normal. She suggested that it could be a symptom of Huntington's Disease (genetic testing has shown that to be unlikely). So, without adequate pressure in my esophagus, I have to swallow more than once to achieve the pressure. Of course, then the bolus comes to the area of esophageal dysmotility, and starts and stops until it eventually gets to the door to my stomach. Usually it opens, but occasionally it opens at the wrong time, and a little gastric content sneaks up into my esophagus, which is called silent reflux. Yesterday, eating lunch took 50 minutes. First, chew and chew and chew, then gather it together to form a bolus, then comes the slow process of moving the bolus through the esophagus into the stomach. What a pain!

Now, having said all that, I wonder if you've seen any progress in your swallowing issues. Brie, I've learned a lot of medical things over the years, and, like you, I push for explanations if I don't understand completely. I also know enough by now that I understand more of what they say, and most of my doctors have figured out that I don't want them to dumb down what they say. I just return their dumbed down comments with intelligent responses using technical terms. If a doctor doesn't work with me, I move on to a better one. I guess I'm old enough that I can move on if I want to. I've assembled a pretty good team of doctors who care for me. The neurologist has been a challenge because his nature is not very outgoing, and I have to draw things out of him. My wife isn't impressed, but I see the potential. He did do one thing that was in his favor, suggesting that I get another opinion, which led me to a good pain specialist.

I was skeptical about seeing a speech therapist, but I've been impressed with her, and she's explained a lot and moved me along to appropriate tests. She does way more than help kids with speech issues.

Anyway, things are moving forward, maybe at a slower pace than I'd like, but I have hope that I'll not develop worsening symptoms.

I'm glad that you don't have psych problems, Brie. They really can exacerbate physical problems.

Jim

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@jimhd

@danybegood1, @brie87144

It's been awhile, and a lot has happened since March. For my terrible pain from peripheral neuropathy, I did a trial spinal cord stimulator implant and was approved for the permanent implant, which was done in May. My feet still burn and hurt, but it's much, much better. I had cataract surgeries on both eyes, which has greatly improved my vision. I've had an endoscopy, a colonoscopy, an x-ray swallowing test, and a scope to watch the back of my tongue during swallowing. I am seeing a speech therapist, who's giving me exercises to strengthen my tongue so it performs its job effectively. The ENT doctor found that the back of my tongue isn't strong enough to create sufficient pressure in my esophagus to propel the bolus through, and also found that it has choreiform movement. That means that it doesn't assemble the bolus the way it should, so food stays in my mouth longer than normal. She suggested that it could be a symptom of Huntington's Disease (genetic testing has shown that to be unlikely). So, without adequate pressure in my esophagus, I have to swallow more than once to achieve the pressure. Of course, then the bolus comes to the area of esophageal dysmotility, and starts and stops until it eventually gets to the door to my stomach. Usually it opens, but occasionally it opens at the wrong time, and a little gastric content sneaks up into my esophagus, which is called silent reflux. Yesterday, eating lunch took 50 minutes. First, chew and chew and chew, then gather it together to form a bolus, then comes the slow process of moving the bolus through the esophagus into the stomach. What a pain!

Now, having said all that, I wonder if you've seen any progress in your swallowing issues. Brie, I've learned a lot of medical things over the years, and, like you, I push for explanations if I don't understand completely. I also know enough by now that I understand more of what they say, and most of my doctors have figured out that I don't want them to dumb down what they say. I just return their dumbed down comments with intelligent responses using technical terms. If a doctor doesn't work with me, I move on to a better one. I guess I'm old enough that I can move on if I want to. I've assembled a pretty good team of doctors who care for me. The neurologist has been a challenge because his nature is not very outgoing, and I have to draw things out of him. My wife isn't impressed, but I see the potential. He did do one thing that was in his favor, suggesting that I get another opinion, which led me to a good pain specialist.

I was skeptical about seeing a speech therapist, but I've been impressed with her, and she's explained a lot and moved me along to appropriate tests. She does way more than help kids with speech issues.

Anyway, things are moving forward, maybe at a slower pace than I'd like, but I have hope that I'll not develop worsening symptoms.

I'm glad that you don't have psych problems, Brie. They really can exacerbate physical problems.

Jim

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@font-face{font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}@jim. Thank you so much for remembering me.  If I may ask, where did they implant the stimulator.  I&apos;m not ready for this yet, but my daughter might be.  I&apos;m glad it has helped you.  Any port in a storm I say.
Thanks, Dany

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@jimhd

@danybegood1, @brie87144

It's been awhile, and a lot has happened since March. For my terrible pain from peripheral neuropathy, I did a trial spinal cord stimulator implant and was approved for the permanent implant, which was done in May. My feet still burn and hurt, but it's much, much better. I had cataract surgeries on both eyes, which has greatly improved my vision. I've had an endoscopy, a colonoscopy, an x-ray swallowing test, and a scope to watch the back of my tongue during swallowing. I am seeing a speech therapist, who's giving me exercises to strengthen my tongue so it performs its job effectively. The ENT doctor found that the back of my tongue isn't strong enough to create sufficient pressure in my esophagus to propel the bolus through, and also found that it has choreiform movement. That means that it doesn't assemble the bolus the way it should, so food stays in my mouth longer than normal. She suggested that it could be a symptom of Huntington's Disease (genetic testing has shown that to be unlikely). So, without adequate pressure in my esophagus, I have to swallow more than once to achieve the pressure. Of course, then the bolus comes to the area of esophageal dysmotility, and starts and stops until it eventually gets to the door to my stomach. Usually it opens, but occasionally it opens at the wrong time, and a little gastric content sneaks up into my esophagus, which is called silent reflux. Yesterday, eating lunch took 50 minutes. First, chew and chew and chew, then gather it together to form a bolus, then comes the slow process of moving the bolus through the esophagus into the stomach. What a pain!

Now, having said all that, I wonder if you've seen any progress in your swallowing issues. Brie, I've learned a lot of medical things over the years, and, like you, I push for explanations if I don't understand completely. I also know enough by now that I understand more of what they say, and most of my doctors have figured out that I don't want them to dumb down what they say. I just return their dumbed down comments with intelligent responses using technical terms. If a doctor doesn't work with me, I move on to a better one. I guess I'm old enough that I can move on if I want to. I've assembled a pretty good team of doctors who care for me. The neurologist has been a challenge because his nature is not very outgoing, and I have to draw things out of him. My wife isn't impressed, but I see the potential. He did do one thing that was in his favor, suggesting that I get another opinion, which led me to a good pain specialist.

I was skeptical about seeing a speech therapist, but I've been impressed with her, and she's explained a lot and moved me along to appropriate tests. She does way more than help kids with speech issues.

Anyway, things are moving forward, maybe at a slower pace than I'd like, but I have hope that I'll not develop worsening symptoms.

I'm glad that you don't have psych problems, Brie. They really can exacerbate physical problems.

Jim

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@danybegood1

The generator/battery pack is on the left side of my lower back, above the belt line. They want to implant it as close to the spinal cord as possible, to avoid energy loss to the wires that are connected to the nerves. I am a bit of a problem because I'm so thin. I don't have any extra fat to cushion the unit, so I do feel it when I lie on my back or lean against the back of a chair. It can get sore, but I think that's pretty unusual.

Jim

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