How do we get clear information about hearing assistive technology?
Are the audiologists and hearing instrument specialists who serve you explaining the advantages of hearing assistive tech that adds value to hearing aids?
Do you want to be able to hear well at theaters, performing arts centers, meetings, worship centers, etc.? Or doesn't that matter to you?
I continue to be shocked and amazed at how many people come to our HLAA chapter meetings who have high quality, well fitted hearing aids, but know nothing about the helpful options that let us hear better in settings where noise can be a demon that stops us from going there.
How can we let providers know we want to hear as well as we possibly can, and that we need them to show us how these options work. If all they do is tell us they exist without demonstrating how they help, it's a losing battle.
It's even worse when hard of hearing people don't get any information about these options because they express that they are more interested in hiding their hearing loss than helping it.
I'd like very much to hear both positive and negative experiences. We want and need to respect and trust our providers but sometimes we find ourselves having to educate them a bit.
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@hedgerow It's very important to share feedback with venues that are trying to provide communication access for us. If it's not working, tell them. If it is working, tell them how much it matters to you.
I do know that it can be difficult to share either type of feedback. To whom do you go to talk? Do you send a note, an email, or talk to them personally? When I attend movies I always request the caption devices as we don't have other tech in our area. The cup holder caption device does work. I have tried the caption glasses at a demo at an HLAA convention and found them awkward to wear over my glasses. Good to know there is a new model. Please let us know how it works!
Hearing loss complicates so many things. Communication barriers are huge and poorly understood. For example, when asking for a device it's usually noisy. When returning that after the movie it's noisy. Noise makes it difficult for us to converse. Reality. Send a note? To whom? The advocacy we need to do isn't easy, but it is important. Do you best to figure it out!
Hearing loop technology is wonderful, but it can pass through walls just as FM technology can. You don't want to be in one room listening to what's going on in an adjacent room. I hope with all my heart that when Auracast finally becomes available that kind of barrier will be eliminated. Meanwhile....keep educating and advocating!!
I think caption glasses would work in close one-to-one settings.
I too am very curious how the caption glasses work - tiny microphones like our hearing aids that are asked to pick up sounds across great distances, which is somewhat impossible in a theater. Also, I'm wondering about the delay (AI needs time to process the sounds) and accuracy.
For those who are reading and may not know. A different technology cannot substitute for assistive listening
FALSE: "we have caption glasses, so assistive listening isn't needed" or
FALSE "we have CART, we have caption glasses, so assistive listening isn't needed"
@julieo4 I totally agree, " Do you best to figure it out!" There's no penalty for making your best guess. What's the worse thing that can happen? No response. Then you find the next person and send the same email (little to no work).
I sometimes include a sentence "if you're not the right person, could you please forward my email to the appropriate person?"
@pmrsuzie I say to all in this chain that the role out of Auracast cannot happen soon enough.
It is my understanding that it is far cheaper to set up with far better sound quality.
Telecoil is expensive to set up and many venues don’t offer it.
Has anyone experienced Auracast yet?
@hedgerow Hi. I have no idea if the staff checks the systems before every production. I'm only now just starting to take a more active role in seeking improvements, both in my professional work as a church music director and in my avocation of theatre attendance. . As to you question about varies in quality, I'm referring to clarity of speech. Thanks for replying.
@hedgerow I need to clarify my comment on captioned glasses for theaters versus captioned glasses that have come out this past year for conversation, such as Captify. The glasses for theaters work differently. The theater spends the 1st week of a new play capturing the conversations in the performance (the script) and inputting it into the glasses. Sort of like programming the glasses. So the glasses are not available typically for the first week of a new production. When they are available, assuming the actors/actresses don't ad lib too much, then the inputted script is what goes across the screen on your glasses. You can be in the 1st row or the last row of the theater and still have the same script running across your lenses. You can also adjust where the captions run across your 'screen' - at the top of the lens or at the bottom depending on where you are sitting. Glasses like Captify are reliant on tiny microphones on the frames that pick up the speakers and using Speech to Text, having the conversation run across your lenses. They work just like captioning apps on your phone.
Because I would use them for close conversation, I would not wear them on top of my prescription glasses. You can get prescription lenses for Captify glasses (they are the only one I tried at the HLAA Convention). I plan on buying a pair this Fall after some more research.
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2 Reactions@daveshaw Yes Auracast will solve some problems, but not all. Even if every venue were to install it today, all hearing aids can't connect to it today (some manufacturers haven't even released their hearing aids). The international standard is expected late 2027 to address multiple issues.
Why do you say many venues don't offer assistive listening systems (hearing loop, FM/RF, infrared)? It is required under the ADA in the United States and disability laws in multiple countries. Have you found a venue without assistive listening, and if so, did you submit a complaint?
There are two types of Auracast streams. The lower stream 24 kHz is for hearing aids, the higher stream 48 kHz is for high quality audio.
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3 Reactions@mikepa thanks for the great explanation and clarifying the different types.
@hedgerow I found hanging a box around my neck to be very primitive.
When Auracast does roll out the ADA should demand it be installed in all applicable venues.
Much like handicap facilities in restrooms.
Hopefully that happens. I still think the ADA ignores us in this country. Just my opinion.
They didn’t start addressing hearing loss in this country until 1988. I think that is inexcusable.
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1 Reaction@mikepa Thank you for clarifying the differences between these captioned glasses. I was impressed by the Captify glasses I tried at the national HLAA convention too. How they worked, but also that they were planning a new model.
It's pretty amazing how much has happened in the 40+ years I've been using hearing aids with assisstive technology. This has happened because people with hearing loss have become advocates and educators. If more people would get involved actively, things would move even faster.