@sandguy Yes, once the dust settled, some kind of universal healthcare would save U.S. taxpayers money — pro-rated by population, other G7 countries pay less in tax $$ for universal coverage than the U.S. does just for its limited-coverage public programmes like Medicare, Medicaid, and Veterans' benefits — but the challenge is figuring out how to get from here to there.

It would be one of the biggest economic change- management problems in human history, because so much of the U.S. economy depends on the system being the way it is (it's like Eisenhower's "military-industrial complex," deeply tangled into the fabric of the U.S. economy, and it's hard to pull out the thread without unraveling a lot of the fabric 😢).