Right mid abdominal and Back Pain

Posted by nmgirl @nmgirl, Nov 8, 2022

Hello, I'm a 47 year old female that has had right mid abdominal and back pain for almost five months now, that started when I had COVID. It started with a dull back pain and then eventually radiated to abdomen and now it is in both locations. It is always present at some level, but is worse after eating and after light exercise. I do feel full quicker than normal after eating too and am tired often. I don't generally get nauseous (but occasionally do a little after light exercise), don't have constipation or diarrhea, and am not losing weight. My pain ranges from 1 to 6 and is mostly dull and achy, but occasionally get quick sharp pains. I have had every test I can think of, CT (2 of them), outer and vaginal ultrasounds, HIDA scan, endoscopy (with biopsy for celiac), colonoscopy, several repeating blood tests, test for catecholamines (my dad has a malignant metastasized pheochromocytoma), and probably more I can't remember. All came back normal. I've been taking prilosec and pepsid both at direction of my Dr. and at times it seems to help a little, but then it doesn't. There doesn't seem to be a pattern with a specific type of food that I eat. I've read everything on the internet that I possibly can and my symptoms just don't fit perfectly into any particular cause/category but it seems like many people have similar symptoms. Any suggestions would be helpful. I can't get the Dr's to respond to my messages anymore and it takes months to get more Dr. Appts.

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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. I have looked into this, and although I agree it does fit some, but the reasons I don't think it fits is because it only happens after I eat, and it isn't super localized. Descriptions I've read state it is a pinpoint type of pain, and mine is larger area than that. I've also had Dr. pressing down in areas of by abdomen and it doesn't seem to hurt anywhere when they do this. If I go see a Dr. again I will definitely mention this though to him/her. Thanks for the reply!

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My best wishes!

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Nmgirl you should remain on the FODMAP diet for a number of months to see if it has sustained beneficial effect for you. You’ve shown that on the short term it proved efficacy so keep on it and give your GI system a break. After 6 months then try adding stuff back slowly so to avoid confusing food effects.

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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. I have looked into this, and although I agree it does fit some, but the reasons I don't think it fits is because it only happens after I eat, and it isn't super localized. Descriptions I've read state it is a pinpoint type of pain, and mine is larger area than that. I've also had Dr. pressing down in areas of by abdomen and it doesn't seem to hurt anywhere when they do this. If I go see a Dr. again I will definitely mention this though to him/her. Thanks for the reply!

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It seems it's not what commonly known Back pain is -- because there is ample information on it and possibly on Mayo and Cleveland Clinic among Harvard Health and others. Occasionally i did have this but on my 8 decades old frame I don't recall it ever been a problem. Why?

I can't say for sure -- our bodies are outcome of thousands of behaviors, emotions and feelings starting with eating well and engaging in all-round strengthening and flexibility exercises, and stress management These three I'm into Daily. It usually translates into good posture too. And in my case rare doc visits, no meds and i even dodged my colonoscopy
as I kept delaying till 76 when they say it's no help! And still able to walk briskly for long all 13 floors in my bldg. If nothing else has worked, maybe this is worth a try -- I see you do say you have some excess weight issue.
Good luck!

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Have you had your GI doctor test your liver. It's an organ on the right side of your body and it can hurt if you are having pain there and in your back. That can be a serious issue. My friend had to have a liver transplant due to her liver going into failure. Have your GI doctor test your liver. It's really important. Hope you get answers and get better.

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I have constant back pain/ spasms. I had 3 MRIs over the course of 3 years. But never one with contrast. I suggest you have a MRI w/ contrast and also see a gastroenterologist for an upper GI. Best of luck to you!

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Hello! Did you ever get any answers to this?

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Hello! Did you ever get any answers to this?

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The pain goes hand and hand. I asked my doctor. Even went to Emergency.

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I can relate to all the comments and have death with it for 25 years now only to find the diagnosis myself. I have hypermobile ehlers danulous, dysautonomia and mcas along with ibs/ gastroenteritis , umbilica hernia ( one on each side above my hips as well) ovarian cysts, slowed digestion, esophageal spasms, can't remember the name but there's a hole that the nerves run through like a wire harness in your back on the right lower side and mine apparently closed pinching the nerves, sciatica, calcium deposits, snapping scapula, fibromyalgia, gerd, peptic ulcers, chronic nausea, always tired but can never sleep or stay asleep, extreme swelling in my legs especially the lower legs ankles and feet that can last week's causing me to not be able to walk I've gone from 246 lbs to 297lbs in 1 week from swelling ( still unsure if the cause the Drs disagree. Vein specialist that tests my veinous insufficiency disease said it's a heart issue... Primary said it's a vein issue then both diagnosed as severe edema) I have much more wrong with me and it got worse along with my breathing after covid in the winter of 2022 also diagnosed with long covid... Recently having issues with my pancreas. A lot of times my tummy cramps after eating causing me to puke and has ever since my first C-section in 2000, they noticed they were short a sponge right before closing me up and took out my intestines placing them on the silver tray next to me then they shoved them back in and stapled me closed... I was so messed up after that surgery, in and out of the ER every test known to mankind all negative or normal results even spinal taps which caused me to lose too much fluid and gave me the worst migraines for over a year ( that Dr lost his license for causing similar complications issues in other women during c- sections but I'd moved away by then and didn't hear about it for ten years. . I also had very painful cramping behind my belly button especially after intercourse or lifting anything from in front of my feet to my waist level or higher... On top of all that fun stuff I was in a near fatal MVA in 2010 with a two trailer semi 🚛 truck hauling 153,000 lbs of scrap metal and steel that was going 60mph as I was coming to a stop on his right side and couldn't stop because my breaks failed.. sraped down the trailer hit the center connector soun around and crunched down my side again then we popped out like hitting a pop can violently rolling a quarter mile while I was stuck in the seatbelt outside my blazer as it rolled and the front axle broke off and hit me crushing my ribs and then when it finally stopped rolling my blazer landed on me, I died and was met by my great grandma and my father who said they love me but it wasn't my time and I had to go back, while there in the blackness I couldn't see them but could feel their energy and the most overwhelming love that's indescribable on earth and no pain ... Then I fell back into my body and was in the most excruciating pain I've ever felt ( which says a lot for someone like me) the Drs said I wouldn't survive and forced me to say goodbye to my kids who were 8 & 9 in the middle of the night but I fought breath by breath ( what had killed me was a pneumothorax from multiple broken ribs that punctured my lung in several places and caused me to drown in blood ) then they said I'd never walk ECT .. I had to relearn how to walk, talk, eat and even swallow ( open and closed jaw fracture and two titanium platee, one of which had to get replaced 3 months later due to mrsa infection and I'm about to get them removed this year 🙏) I had to relearn words ( I had a severe TBI and retrograde amnesia), what they mean and how to write, literally everything and once I got on my feet barely able to care for myself... My mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer and I was her sole caregiver and was pregnant with my now 8 yr old miracle baby who's named after my great grandma and my momma Ruby Lynn 💕 my mom fought for almost 4 years with stage 3&4 ovarian cancer until she died in my arms when I was 7 months pregnant.. I nearly died 2 times after that from starvation because I couldn't hold food down from stress and then again after I had her I was in the ICU for 2 weeks for post labor preeclampsia after my C-section and she was sent to the NICU for breathing issues.. same hospital I was at after my accident.. so so soooo much more trauma happened and I burned out and stopped going to the Drs unless I had to.. I finally am on the ball again and really hoping attempt 9864e467897543 is the charm 🤷‍♀️🙏 one things is for certain though. Positive thinking was the only way I got this far through everything and advocating for myself too. Don't settle because one Dr doesn't find the answer, it doesn't mean there isn't one it just means they couldn't figure it out and gave up.. don't give up on yourself too ❤️ I'm sorry I rambled I really was just going to put my symptoms but who knows, maybe someone will read this that needed to hear some part of it to help them 👌🫶 who has had a MRI with contrast and what can you tell me to help me be more prepared for it ? I did a lower lumbar and thoracic spine MRI so far and that one's next 🤞

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