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I am female, 56 and have -3.2 DXA in my spine. My insurance (Aetna) wants me on Prolia. My rheumatologist says I’m way too young and wants me on Evenity. Aetna declined it but have approved Tymlos. Aetna are now pulling out of Florida, so come Jan 1, I will have new insurance (probably Florida Blue). QUESTIONS 1) If I start Tymlos now, should I do the full two years, then try to transition to Evenity? 2) since Evenity does better than Tymlos in clinical trials, should I wait until January and try to get approved for Evenity? 3) I’m about 10 years post menopause. Is HRT an option for me?
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@inkstained and @mblatcher it is so annoying that insurance companies think they know what’s better for you than your own doctor! I have had the same experience, although with a psoriasis drug - in my case as a Canadian it is the government health insurance thst decides what I can and cannot get!
@gently the link you gave just led me to a Google main page, not to the article which you might be sharing.
@gently I’m confused … are you saying Forteo is more effective than Tymlos?, the only downside to Forteo being that it needs to be refrigerated?
@gently thank you for such good information. I just finished reading a study and see that there are CV risks with both. Since I have PCA narrowing moderate to severe, now I’m questioning what’s best.I had read earlier that Evenity was not recommended for that reason but also just read that it wasn’t any worse than the other two.
So much info out there. I’m just trying to find out as much as I can before seeing my specialist next month.
I hope you appreciate how much your info helps.
rashida, it was supposed to lead you to this video The RANKL/RANK/OPG system in bone
YouTube The Histology Wizard Jan 17, 2022
Which answers what I thought was your question. Then even though it isn't the answer you asked for, I sent it.
Personally, I think Forteo is the better medication. Unreasonably. Except it is more biologic, though there isn't any comfort in what it is extracted from. It is (said to be) more effective in the spine. Spinal fractures are my greatest fear. I'd prefer a hip fracture over a spinal fracture.
But I wasn't trying to say that. I was trying to be neutral.
Tymlos works better in the hips. It is less likely to cause hypercalcemia because of the more transient elevation of calcium. I've read that it is a little less likely to cause nausea and/or dizziness. I do like the downside of refrigeration with Forteo, since that is why it doesn't need phenol as a preservative. I'm happy that Forteo is 20mcg and not 80mcg. Even though (and even since) absorption makes it 28,8 for Tymlos and 19mcg for Forteo.
You really do have to question everything I say. I really am a one trick pony.
@gently can you please provide the link for the evidence of side effects of Tymlos.
@brendammc, I've been looking at the issue of cardiac osteoblasts causing calcification. I saw a cardiologist on Tuesday whose first sentence to me was, "I'm surprised your aren't dead."
I remind myself that while we all gaining socialization skills, doctors were studying chemical relationships. While I was deeply amused, I imagine that would be frightening to many. I could hardly speak for laughing.
While neither Evenity or the PTH medications are associated with PCA narrowing, I'm curious if https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38482603/ was your source.
Real world studies are highly prejudiced with a medication whose black box eliminates the patient cohorts who would be at risk. (thanks, njhornung)
If you have a different link. I have a deeper interest after my encounter with the cardiologist.
Tymlos and Forteo are noted to increase cholesterol levels slightly. Irregular heart beats and low blood pressure are usually only sustained during the first several hours after injection.
Our conditions need further research. Thanks for your comment.
@gently better a one-trick pony than a Jack of all trades! ☺️
@gently Did you get side effects taking Tymlos please
@mblatcher
My experience is you start with Evenity then switch to Prolia to keep your gains.
I took Evenity, then had a Reclast infusion after a year.
Unfortunately I had lots of side effects (joint pain, rash, brain fog) so I only did one Reclast infusion. So far I have held at mild osteoporosis and no more compression fractures.
(I had a mild & moderate compression fx while snow skiing in 2021.